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That's up to you brother. Make things right. Instead of sending extortive PM's to people, apologize to them. Man up. Do the right thing, get your life together.
When things seem their worst, real heroes stand up and make the changes necessary to make a better path for themselves. It comes from within.
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Originally Posted by LoveMy89Anya
i threatened with bodily harm? really? im afraid i did no such thing. " make you my ***** " is not a threat of bodily harm....its not even a threat, because i didnt type a word that got edited out, i typed 5 of these *. i IMPLIED, i didnt actually threaten.
Don't try to play smart with me.
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Hey guys... i just wanted to share something... anya pm'd me
Honestly, the last person to do that was pulltab. And look where that got him. And i know what kind of person you are. You are the kind of person that give people like me a bad name. Why people dont help anyome anymore. You take advantage of everyone. I was in your shoes. But look at me now. Big difference on why i succeded and you wont, i dont wine and try to advantage of people.
Originally Posted by LoveMy89Anya
i dont see how you can claim to hate me when u dont even know me. all u know is what uv seen on the forum. take the time to meet me irl, talk to me irl for a bit, then, if u want to hate me, feel free. the only people on here who have the right to hate me are mike, dukie, tim, doc, and bohnett. since they are the only ones who have actually met me.
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Josh, Jesus loves you, but apparently the rest of these guys think you're an ugly a$$hole.
Again, I don't know you. But I really have no idea why you come here and accept all of this.
When the rest of the world thinks one way, and you think the other, who do you think is crazy? You have obviously portrayed an image of yourself that is less than positive. But you continuously come back to stir the hornets nest, and do nothing to change that image.
I guess I will stop now. I am just not interested enough.
Again, I don't know you. But I really have no idea why you come here and accept all of this.
When the rest of the world thinks one way, and you think the other, who do you think is crazy? You have obviously portrayed an image of yourself that is less than positive. But you continuously come back to stir the hornets nest, and do nothing to change that image.
I guess I will stop now. I am just not interested enough.
This page will define the activity, and help with early recognition; once acknowledged, trolls can take up residence, and, like athlete's foot, can be difficult to shift. And when you've finished here, I recommend this fairly comprehensive guide to managing sad thirteen year olds loose on Mom's computer.
What Is A Troll?
The term derives from "trolling", a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.
Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.
Why do trolls do it?
I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.
Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.
For trolls, any response is 'recognition'; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it's a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?
Remember that trolls are cowards; they'll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that's what they do!).
Troll - Angler or Underbridge Dweller?
How can troll posts be recognised?
- No Imagination - Most are frighteningly obvious; sexist comments on nurses' groups, blasphemy on religious groups .. I kid you not.
- Pedantic in the Extreme - Many trolls' preparation is so thorough, that while they waste time, they appear so ludicrous from the start that they elicit sympathetic mail - the danger is that once the group takes sides, the damage is done.
- False Identity - Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this is not a strong indicator on its own!
- Crossposting - Any post that is crossposted to several groups should be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing perspective. Why would someone do that?
- Off-topic posting - Often genuine errors, but, if from an 'outsider' they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response is simply netiquette; if it's a troll post, you have denied it its reward.
- Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll - or a pedant; either way, treatment as a troll is effective.
- Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question - they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle - so they develop a fine line in missing the point.
- Thick or Sad - Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent, that it is diagnostic! Somewhere on the web there must be an Intelligence Test for Trolls - rigged to always say "above 150"
Wherever they are tolerated - this means forums and networking sites that have loose or lazy moderation, and places like Usenet (newsgroups) where there may be no moderation at all.
Where trolls are successful is a slightly different issue - some forums allow members to set an 'ignore' function, so they just do not see troll posts, after the first one, and some specialist forums are tightly focussed so that troll posts stick out a mile and are ignored - it's larger, more general forums that have issues, as it only takes a couple of members to be drawn in for the whole forum to suffer. They also thrive on 'opinion' sites, such as politics and religion, where feelings often run high anyway. But, again, only if moderation is weak.
Usenet has a special problem, as moderation is impossible; for trolls to be controlled, requires committed members using their killfiles effectively, and avoiding accidental cross-posting - which is all too easy with many newsreading software setups.
Some career trolls have set up their forums to exchange notes. These rarely thrive, as most trolls are not team players, and they simply fight among themselves. in other cases, they become centers for cyberbullying (see stalking); while that's a sad development, it makes it easier to have the sites closed.
Who is at risk?
Any newsgroup, bulletin board, forum or chatroom can attract trolls, but they don't have the brains to attack nuclear physicists, and they are drawn to the quick response where sex, religion and race are found; so politics is easy prey.
One troll famously tried to infiltrate a mensa group; the results read like 100 trolls and one regular, it didn't have a chance - but it was stupid enough to persist until removed.
When Should You Be Concerned?
Usually, no, though fractured funny bones and occasional waves of nausea have been reported.
When a troll become persistent and personal, you may need to consider the possibility that it has fermented into an Internet Stalker - equally pathetic, if not more so - but sometimes requiring weedkiller. Find Out More
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geez josh? how about the fact that i did NOTHING wrong earlier and everybody jumped on my case? i posted a drama-free post and drama still started. take ur wtf and aim it at that, because thats the really messed up thing.
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meh just **** with repairs that were done by the seller, were not even close to acceptable, so they're getting an estimate for the proper repairs to be credited back to me at settlement, except the appt is scheduled for tomorrow at 1, but my finance officer needs the info at 12 so he has time to cut the checks for settlement on thursday...
f'king issues - i hate not having total control of this ****
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meh just **** with repairs that were done by the seller, were not even close to acceptable, so they're getting an estimate for the proper repairs to be credited back to me at settlement, except the appt is scheduled for tomorrow at 1, but my finance officer needs the info at 12 so he has time to cut the checks for settlement on thursday...
f'king issues - i hate not having total control of this ****
f'king issues - i hate not having total control of this ****
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Awesome link pulltab... and josh... at this point... its like this...
99% of the people here dont like you... so why do you keep coming back?
Its like you enjoy being made fun of...
99% of the people here dont like you... so why do you keep coming back?
Its like you enjoy being made fun of...
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Hey guys... i just wanted to share something... anya pm'd me
Honestly, the last person to do that was pulltab. And look where that got him. And i know what kind of person you are. You are the kind of person that give people like me a bad name. Why people dont help anyome anymore. You take advantage of everyone. I was in your shoes. But look at me now. Big difference on why i succeded and you wont, i dont wine and try to advantage of people.
Honestly, the last person to do that was pulltab. And look where that got him. And i know what kind of person you are. You are the kind of person that give people like me a bad name. Why people dont help anyome anymore. You take advantage of everyone. I was in your shoes. But look at me now. Big difference on why i succeded and you wont, i dont wine and try to advantage of people.
honestly, u have no idea what ur talking about. i dont " take advantage " of people, as u seem to think because of the crap thats gone down. mike got his money, it just took me time. tim will also get his money, its just taking me time. i dont take advantage of people like u seem to think. im not a bad person, just in a bad situation.
hence why i said take the time to meet me irl...since u live in ferndale, let me treat u to a beer at ferndale tavern later this week, and u can see that im not the terrible person u seem to think, that u claim to hate.