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Old 05-14-2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dukie564
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by jamming that round filter in the stock box you are greatly reducing it's ability to filter air, ie for air to move around it. There needs to be some clearance around the filter for air to flow. With a heat shield it will be even worse. You may see a loss in power and mpg with that setup.

all you're doing is sticking a round peg in a square hole filter wise so i don't see the benefit over the stock filter...
I'm going to loose the box that's just how I set it up for now. You don't think close proximity to the box will create a low pressure area for increased airflow directly to the filter? And for a shield its only going to be a wall between filter area and intake manifold side. I wasn't going to close it in completely. You really think that setup will reduce power and mpg? Ive actually noticed a slight gain in both, I monitor it pretty closely... Id like to believe its not my brain making me believe that
Old 05-14-2013 | 12:44 PM
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I was looking at it this way. With the stock box with top cover on it. The only way air gets pulled across the oem filter element is thru that small inlet in the front of the box. You think having a cone filter open sitting in the box will get less air then the oem paper element in a covered box? Not trying to debate just looking for your insight.
Old 05-14-2013 | 01:05 PM
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Just saw a chili pepper red xj with mabe 8 inches of lift down by temple in Philly. Anyone on here?
Old 05-14-2013 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by peter93xj
Just saw a chili pepper red xj with mabe 8 inches of lift down by temple in Philly. Anyone on here?
HA ill look for it..where are you at I'm on Cheltenham av getting ready to turn onto broad. Going towards temple u
Old 05-14-2013 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bretts2000XJ

Man looks good. Nice to see someone tearing apart a jeep outside that's dedication. How did the ball joints go? I need to rent a tool and do uppers and lowers.
Wasn't bad changed them once before forgot how to use the press had trouble on da first one but after that it was str8. Changed the oil, spark plugs to ngk, valve cover gasket and a $130 map sensor it crazy how much u pay for some plastic part. 2mrw bleed da brakes and a couple of small stuff
Old 05-14-2013 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by xLxDIZZYx

Wasn't bad changed them once before forgot how to use the press had trouble on da first one but after that it was str8. Changed the oil, spark plugs to ngk, valve cover gasket and a $130 map sensor it crazy how much u pay for some plastic part. 2mrw bleed da brakes and a couple of small stuff
Yea the sensors cost like 15 cents to make I'm sure. Just like the $300 neutral safety switch. Let me know how you like them ngks. I got autolites because advanced told me they no longer carry champion
Old 05-14-2013 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dukie564
constructive criticism:

by jamming that round filter in the stock box you are greatly reducing it's ability to filter air, ie for air to move around it. There needs to be some clearance around the filter for air to flow. With a heat shield it will be even worse. You may see a loss in power and mpg with that setup.

all you're doing is sticking a round peg in a square hole filter wise so i don't see the benefit over the stock filter...
hey dukie...did your cowl intake help with engine temps any? Getting ready to install louvers, wondering if the cowl induction would help too?
Old 05-14-2013 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bretts2000XJ
Yea the sensors cost like 15 cents to make I'm sure. Just like the $300 neutral safety switch. Let me know how you like them ngks. I got autolites because advanced told me they no longer carry champion
They lied to you, they still sell them. They just don't stock them and have to order them in. Not many parts places stick anything other than autolite and some ngk
Old 05-14-2013 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by War Eagle
hey dukie...did your cowl intake help with engine temps any? Getting ready to install louvers, wondering if the cowl induction would help too?
haven't noticed engine temps being affected, and it wouldn't really affect them anyways...

My hood vents def cut down on engine bay heat though.


Hood vents and CAI will NOT affect engine cooling. That's your cooling system's job. If you have overheating issues you need to address which components (radiator, water pump, radiator, thermostat) are not doing their job.
Old 05-14-2013 | 03:05 PM
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Yea absolutely Cai will not affect engine temp. It will reduce your intake air temp which whether its useful in any application is a 10 year debate. I'm thinking about what dukie said... I may have reduced the surface area of the actual intake filter element but I was hoping for more effective airflow with less area than a fram paper. I'm going to remove bottom box , run it open and see if any difference... My question is... What affect does intake have one intake manifold pressure & intake air temps? The engineers obviously know better for standard applications but I'm a tinker so I have to do my experiments.
Old 05-14-2013 | 03:06 PM
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That's the same thing as people thinking a cooler stat will help cooling when all your doing in constantly moving coolant not allowing it to cool properly through the system.
Old 05-14-2013 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bretts2000XJ

HA ill look for it..where are you at I'm on Cheltenham av getting ready to turn onto broad. Going towards temple u
Ah we were down there just to pick someone up from temple that's all
Old 05-14-2013 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bretts2000XJ

Yea the sensors cost like 15 cents to make I'm sure. Just like the $300 neutral safety switch. Let me know how you like them ngks. I got autolites because advanced told me they no longer carry champion
Lol how do they not carry champs! I work at napa and thats y every one hates them guys!
Old 05-14-2013 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xj_mafia570

Lol how do they not carry champs! I work at napa and thats y every one hates them guys!
I have no idea. I went in and said need plugs for 2000 Cherokee and asked if they had champions and I was told they no longer carry them so I got autolites and I still want champions. He tried to sell me ngk but I've always thought they were for imports.
Old 05-14-2013 | 05:38 PM
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I just want some regular old champion coppers. None of that fancy quad platinum stuff thats way to hot for my stock motor anyhow.


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