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Old 05-07-2021, 09:51 AM
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Had a CEL for the last week. Code 22. Got the coolant sensor in and it was still on. After fiddling with it for 3 hours, I finally got the bright idea to look at the connector itself. One of the metal prongs was pulled out so it wasn't making contact with the sensor. The sensor wasn't bad at all!
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Hi there Cordless. Back in I wanna say 2002 my neighbor asked if I was interested in a cb with single side band & builtin linear. I said sure since i was driving 60 miles one way to work at the time, so you get the picture. So I stopped by his place the following afternoon. He pulls out an LTD radio w/single side band & 600 watt linear. I'm looking at it and said it looked pretty cool. He goes into his garage, walks in with (about a 25-30 year old at the time) 400 watt linear stand alone (like about 8'' square) to throw into the mix. Now he was at $400. Then he asked me if I liked to hunt. I said sure why, he walked into one of the bedrooms & comes back out with a 1951 Browning A-5, complete with a 2nd barrel (slug barrel). I started thinking to myself, he's getting ready to soak me out of some serous cash. The radio & linear are the bate, so I then started thinking how can I bow-out of this deal. He says to me, Dan, hows $800 sound. That took me like 5 seconds to tell him Yep, sure, for everything right? He said yes. His wife Beverly who was in their kitchen quietly listening, walks in & says Ron, why are you gonna sell Dan one of your Browning's! He said because I want Dan to have them. The Browning is still in my cabinet. The 400 watt linear I sold to a friend at work for $200, the LTD is still in the garage in a box. I dropped off the radio of the best cb radio repair shops by me because of an electrical issue. The tech that worked on it managed to mess up the linear with some really ****ty soldering which caused it to become worse than when I dropped it off. **I was running dual K-30 antenna's with it. They were tuned properly. I believe what happened was a truck driver (I heard him talking to another driver about the 1200 watt linear he was using) He keyed up his radio as I was driving past him & I think he smoked it.... That's my K-30 Antenna story. I was reading your posts about your 93 XJ, which caught my attention because I bought a 93 back on September 12th of 2020 & just happen to be working on it because of the Track Bar bushings are worn out and I have like 1/4 turn play in my steering and came to the forum to try and find out where to measure on the vehicle to determine the actual height of the lift, (which is 4'', thanks to the help from a forum member)....
So I just thought it was sorta cool that you're working on the restoration of a 93 XJ & then talking about your radio, tuning & a K-30 antenna.
At any rate, the XJ I bought came out of Colorado Springs, Colorado, where it has spent it's entire life at. With me living in Michigan & the XJ having no real rust issues, other than a couple of spots about the size of a silver dollar, which are already freaking me out (by the way)... I'm going to run it through an automatic car wash, maybe a couple times, so the underbody is completely cleaned off. Then I want to prep it, prime it, paint it & then get advice on what would be the best product to put on the metal to protect it. I'm also going to do video's of the bottom first, then as I go along with the underbody treatment so if I ever decide to sell it but equally important for insurance reasons, which I'd need as much proof as I can get to justify how I arrived at a current market value As it stands today, I've turned into a real wuss and I'm at the point where it just sits in the driveway....




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Old 05-19-2021, 11:17 PM
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Since my dash has a crack in it, I decided to get a dash mat for it to protect it from the sun. Found a guy on ebay that custom makes them. I say it came out pretty nice!


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Then I want to prep it, prime it, paint it & then get advice on what would be the best product to put on the metal to protect it. I'm also going to do video's of the bottom first, then as I go along with the underbody treatment so if I ever decide to sell it but equally important for insurance reasons, which I'd need as much proof as I can get to justify how I arrived at a current market value As it stands today, I've turned into a real wuss and I'm at the point where it just sits in the driveway....




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from what i've heard, and i'm most likely gonna go with it, was a product called POR15. you just paint it on your underbody and/or the interior floorpan and it protects it for a long time. Also, that is a very fine Jeep you got there.
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Originally Posted by Cordless telephone
Since my dash has a crack in it, I decided to get a dash mat for it to protect it from the sun. Found a guy on ebay that custom makes them. I say it came out pretty nice!
Not that I need one but am curious.
Got a link?

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Yes, I've read up on that brand. When I was at boy, let me think.... Well one of the chain auto part stores, any who I was talking to a guy there that has restored a few vehicles, both to re-sell & what he kept. That was what he said he used the last couple times. I didn't go into why or what he used prior & then switch to the Por brand.

At the moment I've got the rear bumper off so I can replace it. With that said, I located a parts xj, 1993 Cherokee in Texas. I think I made a mistake getting it. I should have just purchased the after market aluminum bumper, along with both end caps in that Jeep-Grey. My brackets were like new, no rust like the brackets on this bumper, so I removed them, the end caps & am waiting on the last coat of paint to dry before I start the Clear Coat. I was able to find the oem tag on the fire-wall. It shows APC typed into the tag, and to the right of it it has PG5, which I found on a paint website is what the Metallic Hunter Green color goes by from the list of Chrysler-Jeep colors.
As soon as I have the bumper back on, I'll post a picture of it. BTW, this one is steel, whereas both bumpers on mine are aluminum. Why they used two different metals in the same model year is something I can't answer.
As for the underbody & frame. The frame is 100% rust-free but as i clean off the metal, I'm finding a lot of super small areas where the metal has begun to rust. Thankfully there's only one spot where the metal is really bad but it's only 1.0-1.5 inches round. Last fall when I lifted up the carpet I didn't see any issues but that one rust spot would be actually under the front passenger seat so that'll be a another summer project....
Another thing I found was after it rains, when I open the drivers door, water runs out of the bottom-front corner drain lol. I pulled the panel & the metal is good, so I'll need to clean them, paint & coat them. Since the window seal-strip is where water gets in, I'll need to get a complete kit since, well, they're 28 years old & shot...
When I take all these things into consideration, that is why this XJ doesn't see Michigan Winter Roads & won't until I correct all the issues I've found....
Usually I browse through Craigslist for any mid-late 1990's XJ's from here in Michigan & from the southern states. I'm still kicking myself in the *** for not grabbing a 98 XJ (Rusted in the usual areas) that was on CL in my area. Guy was asking $750 firm. The original price was $1,150 obo but he wanted it gone so he dropped the price $400. According to the listing, the trans was bad, (no reverse) but the 4x4 system & the engine were in good condition but take that with a grain of salt.
The guy selling it said it was his son who was actually the owner had bought the XJ with one of those $400 + steel bumpers installed but without a Winch or Bull-Bar with was fine. I had figured that if I went with those beefy front & rear bumper upgrades, it would end the having to replace the bumper like I'm going through now. I'm already ticked because I'll have $250 in it now, plus my time & damn, I've seen those rear bumpers for $350.
Hey Cordless telephone, I haven't come up with what it'll cost me to bring my XJ to the point where all it'll need is new paint in order to make it look 100%, I'm just thankful that the floor-pans are good & the frame-rails are still good as well. I've looked at a lot of XJ's where the sellers are saying the pans & frame were all good before spraying undercoat. With no before pictures, that would have verified the condition as being good & rust-free makes me doubt them. That's the world we live in. Not everyone can be taken serious when they make statements like that in their for sale listing. I don't buy it & haven't for many years. lol I've bought a few vehicles that were built on a bunch of BS.....
Have you ever figured out what the dollar amount will be, in order to get your XJ finished? I'm thinking it'll be costing me at least $1,500 + this bumper and whatever a paint shop will charge me. Good luck with your XJ project. **Oh yeah, thank you for the complement**. I thought I did alright. I just noticed that the guy I bought mine from, who also had a 1992 XJ listed it for $5,000. I think he had better make sure that this 92 doesn't need a lot of small stuff repaired like mine ended up needing because I didn't see ''OBO'' next to the price..... Dan

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Old 05-20-2021, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
Not that I need one but am curious.
Got a link?
yeah here you go: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15023977131...8f3a%7Ciid%3A1
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Have you ever figured out what the dollar amount will be, in order to get your XJ finished?
I'm actually not sure. I know I still have to redo the brakes, get the LCAs replaced, tierods, motor mounts, etc. And maybe a new paint job if I can't save this original one(Maybe wetsand the old clearcoat off the hood and fenders and reapply). I think I've probably put somewhere around $500 into this jeep, not counting the $1,300 I paid for it.
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Nice, I paid up for this one. I believe it was $3,200. Plus plates & title. So far I have about $400 into it with the bumper, which I just installed an hour ago. Then I replaced both rear lens and thought I'd replace all the bulbs & now, lol I have no running lights. Brake, turn signals & backup lights work. One of the rear bulbs was stuck in the socket. I probably shorted it out when I had a set of snips to pull out the bottom half of the bulb holder after the bulb broke off the metal part.... I had left the lights on, so my bad. I'll check the fuses under the dash in the morning lol.... What a day lol........
15 amp fuse was blown. Anytime I go to U-Pull Auto Parts, I go to the fuse locks & for a couple bucks I can get all the fuses for the vehicle I'm working on...
I could probably just pocket them but building trust with those guys can prove to be way better, especially if I need a certain part pulled, then they know who I am... (I hope lol)

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So for the longest I've always loved Smoker windows. Also wanted them on the car I own. finally got a Cherokee in the local junkyard(god rest it's soul) that had them. Pulled them and then installed them on mine. I finally have smoker windows!


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That is very cool Love that Jeep. Mine is the SAME color scheme, except a 92. Living vicariously through your progress. Let me know if you ever decide to sell and move to another project. You can start over again on mine.
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Just put my 93 back in service....sat for a year or more. I'm on my second aftermarket fuel pump. Tank must have rust in it.
Any recommendations for fuel pump? Aftermarket or OEM? The two that whined themselves out of service were from Advance Auto.

Any other tips appreciated. Not sure what to order either, I'm going to DIY. There are many parts/descriptions to consider when one searches on Fuel Pump.
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Just put my 93 back in service....sat for a year or more. I'm on my second aftermarket fuel pump. Tank must have rust in it.
Any recommendations for fuel pump? Aftermarket or OEM? The two that whined themselves out of service were from Advance Auto.

Any other tips appreciated. Not sure what to order either, I'm going to DIY. There are many parts/descriptions to consider when one searches on Fuel Pump.
I'm not the OP but I'll tell you what I've learned when it comes to jeep and MOPAR in general.. Most all aftermarket sensors and parts fall short of the original equipment manufacturer.. With that in mind going after the original parts from the dealer/online parts suppliers would be optimal.. When the price is over the top and unaffordable the next step is to find out the OE{original equipment} supplier.. Bosch was an OE supplier for the fuel pump so going with that brand from the aftermarket would be a good choice..NGK was an OE supplier for the sensors and would also be a good choice if a MOPAR sensor is too expensive.. Remember the cheapies are cheap for a reason and buying it twice defeats the cheap price...

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Just put my 93 back in service....sat for a year or more. I'm on my second aftermarket fuel pump. Tank must have rust in it.
Any recommendations for fuel pump? Aftermarket or OEM? The two that whined themselves out of service were from Advance Auto.

Any other tips appreciated. Not sure what to order either, I'm going to DIY. There are many parts/descriptions to consider when one searches on Fuel Pump.
I've gone cheap with my fuel pumps since im on a budget and have gone through 2. Definitely worth the extra price to get one from MOPAR or an OE variant.
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Originally Posted by Corky
I'm not the OP but I'll tell you what I've learned when it comes to jeep and MOPAR in general.. Most all aftermarket sensors and parts fall short of the original equipment manufacturer.. With that in mind going after the original parts from the dealer/online parts suppliers would be optimal.. When the price is over the top and unaffordable the next step is to find out the OE{original equipment} supplier.. Bosch was an OE supplier for the fuel pump so going with that brand from the aftermarket would be a good choice..NGK was an OE supplier for the sensors and would also be a good choice if a MOPAR sensor is too expensive.. Remember the cheapies are cheap for a reason and buying it twice defeats the cheap price...
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I've gone cheap with my fuel pumps since im on a budget and have gone through 2. Definitely worth the extra price to get one from MOPAR or an OE variant.
Most definitely true. As a matter of fact for fear of certain Mopar sensors becoming N/A I have started sourcing them to hoard.
And IMO owning an '00 makes that a little more important.
The I can't find a Bosch fuel pump threads come and go on here.
So does the availability. Seems like sometimes they can be had. And at other times you can't find one to save your life.
For my '00 looks like at the moment one can be had.

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Somebody local to me on Craigslist was selling a new Mopar one that I am almost positive is for my Jeep.
He wanted $150. Said screw it went and grabbed it. Just for "stock". LOL.
Best I can tell for you guys with the older Jeeps fuel pumps can be really hard to source.


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