88 cherokee
08-04-2011 | 11:30 PM
#106
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From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Made some progress tonight. Mostly on the bumper mounts and the frame inserts. Also made a new makeshift exhaust bracket to hold things out of the way.
Here is the area cut away from where the bumper used to be. This is where my 2x4 3/16" box will slide into the frame.
Here is the box that will go in the frame.
You have to cut the driver side in order to slid it under the gas lines that cross the frame
Here is the gas line support area that the frame needs to slide under
After piece has been removed.
Holes drilled for the shackle bolt to cross through the bar.
Makeshift exhaust mount. Pretty solid actually.
Here is the new hardware that will bolt the frame inserts to the frame. 8 3/4" all-thread bolts. Should do the trick.
And one more with the bars in the jeep. Driving like this tomorrow. Hopefully no one rear ends me cause its going to destroy their car.
Here is the area cut away from where the bumper used to be. This is where my 2x4 3/16" box will slide into the frame.
Here is the box that will go in the frame.
You have to cut the driver side in order to slid it under the gas lines that cross the frame
Here is the gas line support area that the frame needs to slide under
After piece has been removed.
Holes drilled for the shackle bolt to cross through the bar.
Makeshift exhaust mount. Pretty solid actually.
Here is the new hardware that will bolt the frame inserts to the frame. 8 3/4" all-thread bolts. Should do the trick.
And one more with the bars in the jeep. Driving like this tomorrow. Hopefully no one rear ends me cause its going to destroy their car.
08-08-2011 | 02:27 AM
#107
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From: Michigan--> SOCAL--> Eastern Carolina--> Middle Tennessee
Year: 01,01,99,98,97,97,96,94,90MJ,90MJ,86MJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
what are the dimensions of your rack, and is there a reason you only got 7 ten foot sections when there will be 8 sides? im looking to build the exact thing so i'd like to know, thanks!!! awesome
job
jobSpent most of my weekend grinding down a 1/2 piece of rigid conduit so that it would fit inside 3/4 EMT as sleeves.
Here is my supply list for the safari rack
7 pieces of ten foot 3/4" EMT
One piece of 36" 1/2 rigid (Grind the entire piece down so that it slides inside of the 3/4 EMT and then cut it into 2 inch pieces. Total of 16 sleeves needed)
One box of 1/2" with 1/4" heads Teks screws
8 90 degree bend 3/4" EMT
1 piece of 36" aluminum plate for the sides cut into 12 3" pieces. (1/8" thick by 1 1/2" wide by 36" long)
6 JCR gutter mounts for XJ
4 Harbor Freight offroad 100w lights
4 Harbor Freight Clear Lens Halogen Lights
I have the frame finished now and am waiting for the floor pieces to get back from the machine shop. I took them in to press the ends flat so that i can drill them straight into the rack with the teks screws. More pictures should be up this week but this is all i have right now.
Here is my supply list for the safari rack
7 pieces of ten foot 3/4" EMT
One piece of 36" 1/2 rigid (Grind the entire piece down so that it slides inside of the 3/4 EMT and then cut it into 2 inch pieces. Total of 16 sleeves needed)
One box of 1/2" with 1/4" heads Teks screws
8 90 degree bend 3/4" EMT
1 piece of 36" aluminum plate for the sides cut into 12 3" pieces. (1/8" thick by 1 1/2" wide by 36" long)
6 JCR gutter mounts for XJ
4 Harbor Freight offroad 100w lights
4 Harbor Freight Clear Lens Halogen Lights
I have the frame finished now and am waiting for the floor pieces to get back from the machine shop. I took them in to press the ends flat so that i can drill them straight into the rack with the teks screws. More pictures should be up this week but this is all i have right now.
08-08-2011 | 11:31 AM
#108
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From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Let me measure it and i'll get you dimensions. The only size they sell at hardware stores its 10 foots sections so that is the reason for those lengths. I'll post length, height, and width this afternoon for you.
08-08-2011 | 01:14 PM
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From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Bottom rails
35 inches wide
55 inches long
The 90 degree pieces will go on the end of these giving you a total of:
49.5 inches wide
70.5 inches long
Top rails
35 inches wide
50 inches long
The 90 degree pieces will go on the end of these giving you a total of:
49.5 inches wide
65.5 inches long
Total height is 4 inches. The extra 5 inches on the bottom rail goes to the front and that will give you the mounting area for your fog lights. PM me if you have any other questions about it. Thanks.
08-08-2011 | 01:59 PM
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From: Michigan--> SOCAL--> Eastern Carolina--> Middle Tennessee
Year: 01,01,99,98,97,97,96,94,90MJ,90MJ,86MJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
thanks ill be making mine tonight!!! with buying 7 pieces did that give you enough for the floor as well?
Alright, so here are all the dimensions that you will need if your going to build this.
Bottom rails
35 inches wide
55 inches long
The 90 degree pieces will go on the end of these giving you a total of:
49.5 inches wide
70.5 inches long
Top rails
35 inches wide
50 inches long
The 90 degree pieces will go on the end of these giving you a total of:
49.5 inches wide
65.5 inches long
Total height is 4 inches. The extra 5 inches on the bottom rail goes to the front and that will give you the mounting area for your fog lights. PM me if you have any other questions about it. Thanks.
Bottom rails
35 inches wide
55 inches long
The 90 degree pieces will go on the end of these giving you a total of:
49.5 inches wide
70.5 inches long
Top rails
35 inches wide
50 inches long
The 90 degree pieces will go on the end of these giving you a total of:
49.5 inches wide
65.5 inches long
Total height is 4 inches. The extra 5 inches on the bottom rail goes to the front and that will give you the mounting area for your fog lights. PM me if you have any other questions about it. Thanks.
08-08-2011 | 02:19 PM
#111
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From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Yeah, 7 pieces is just right for the whole thing. You'll have some smaller pieces left over but thats about it. I would like to see pictures when yours is done.
08-08-2011 | 06:45 PM
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From: Michigan--> SOCAL--> Eastern Carolina--> Middle Tennessee
Year: 01,01,99,98,97,97,96,94,90MJ,90MJ,86MJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i will deffinatly post some pictures i got called into work tonight and have to work tomorrow so hopefully Wednesday!
08-09-2011 | 10:43 PM
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From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
More work.
My bumper build is basically a kit at this point. All the metal is cut and ready to go, just need to wait til this weekend so i can use a bigger welder.
Test fitting the 4x4 box.
laying out all the pieces to get an idea of how it will look.
With tire carrier in place.
Close up the angle mount area.
sitting in place.
With hatch closed
Had to make a little tool to hold my bolts to slide them into the rails.
And some more work on my storage area frames.
Passenger side
And another. Not set in place, just testing the fit.
My bumper build is basically a kit at this point. All the metal is cut and ready to go, just need to wait til this weekend so i can use a bigger welder.
Test fitting the 4x4 box.
laying out all the pieces to get an idea of how it will look.
With tire carrier in place.
Close up the angle mount area.
sitting in place.
With hatch closed
Had to make a little tool to hold my bolts to slide them into the rails.
And some more work on my storage area frames.
Passenger side
And another. Not set in place, just testing the fit.
08-10-2011 | 11:07 PM
#116
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From: Round Rock, TX
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Man I just read the whole thread and I love it. It's coming along nicely. Can't wait to see more. I know all about slow going too, I never have time to work on mine. I saw a comment about ride quality earlier. I'm running the RC 6.5" X-Flex with 35s and it rides good. Its still a little stiff, but I'm happy with it.
08-12-2011 | 11:26 AM
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From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Man I just read the whole thread and I love it. It's coming along nicely. Can't wait to see more. I know all about slow going too, I never have time to work on mine. I saw a comment about ride quality earlier. I'm running the RC 6.5" X-Flex with 35s and it rides good. Its still a little stiff, but I'm happy with it.
08-12-2011 | 11:38 AM
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From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
So I'm terrible at getting one project finished before I start the next one. And now I started another one on accident. Picked up a XJ dana 44 with factory posi for $250 bucks. I figured since I am doing gears soon there is really no point an dumping money into a dana 35 just to blow it up a few months down the road. Here is a running tally of current projects.
There is my new axle. Needs a good cleaning but its good otherwise.
There is my new axle. Needs a good cleaning but its good otherwise.
08-12-2011 | 02:38 PM
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From: California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 i6
Picked up this 88 in october for 1100 bucks. It needed a new brake booster right off the bat. Aside from that i figured it would be a fun build and something to keep me busy.
It came with a 3 inch lift and 31's but since it still had the stock wheels i had some issues with rubbing. I picked up a set of crawler wheels on craigs the second week i had it and put those on but i dont have those pictures yet.
In the past two months I have replaced the following...
Thermostat Housing
Thermostat
Put in a 3 core all metal radiator
Fan Clutch
Water Pump
Serpentine Belt
Aux. Cooling Fan
Redid all cooling lines. (kept the close loop system which actually works very well when it isn't full of oil, dirt, and plastic)
New oil cooling lines
Cut the intake line and routed it to behind the driver side light for cooler air.
New fill tank
Master cylinder
Brake booster
Brake lines
Rear Drums
Rear shoes
New rear brake hardware
Push Button Start
Stereo install
Fuel pump kill switch.
Everything was running good and seemed to be holding together well on it until last weekend. Took a trip up to Greeley in it to see the family and on the way back I blew the transmission as well as the rear main seal. There's 240k on the body but only 100k on the motor so my best guess is that the tranny has 240k on it as well. My brother just picked up a new AW4 for me and after the holidays we're towing it to his shop for that install. Ill do my best to keep the pictures coming through all of that and onto the rest of the build.
Future plans.
Safari rack. I build one already for it but i used stainless for some of it and after loading it up with too much weight i broke it so i have to start over from scratch.
Custom Rear bumper Building one with a tire carrier and jerry can rig as well. Most of the design is finished I'm just looking for metal now.
Custom front Bumper Im going pretty basic on this one. I just want something a litter stronger and a hitch receiver incase of towing.
4" lift Havent decided what brand yet, just looking for a little more clearance for a set of 33's
rust removal Tear down and weld on sheet metal in the rough patches before it spreads beyond repair.
new fogs for the safari rack in both the front and rear, on the front bumper, and on the sides for light while camping.
More to come...
It came with a 3 inch lift and 31's but since it still had the stock wheels i had some issues with rubbing. I picked up a set of crawler wheels on craigs the second week i had it and put those on but i dont have those pictures yet.
In the past two months I have replaced the following...
Thermostat Housing
Thermostat
Put in a 3 core all metal radiator
Fan Clutch
Water Pump
Serpentine Belt
Aux. Cooling Fan
Redid all cooling lines. (kept the close loop system which actually works very well when it isn't full of oil, dirt, and plastic)
New oil cooling lines
Cut the intake line and routed it to behind the driver side light for cooler air.
New fill tank
Master cylinder
Brake booster
Brake lines
Rear Drums
Rear shoes
New rear brake hardware
Push Button Start
Stereo install
Fuel pump kill switch.
Everything was running good and seemed to be holding together well on it until last weekend. Took a trip up to Greeley in it to see the family and on the way back I blew the transmission as well as the rear main seal. There's 240k on the body but only 100k on the motor so my best guess is that the tranny has 240k on it as well. My brother just picked up a new AW4 for me and after the holidays we're towing it to his shop for that install. Ill do my best to keep the pictures coming through all of that and onto the rest of the build.
Future plans.
Safari rack. I build one already for it but i used stainless for some of it and after loading it up with too much weight i broke it so i have to start over from scratch.
Custom Rear bumper Building one with a tire carrier and jerry can rig as well. Most of the design is finished I'm just looking for metal now.
Custom front Bumper Im going pretty basic on this one. I just want something a litter stronger and a hitch receiver incase of towing.
4" lift Havent decided what brand yet, just looking for a little more clearance for a set of 33's
rust removal Tear down and weld on sheet metal in the rough patches before it spreads beyond repair.
new fogs for the safari rack in both the front and rear, on the front bumper, and on the sides for light while camping.
More to come...
The push button start you are talking about is this with an alarm or just the button to ignition? I was thinking of doing this too. Your Jeep looks nice man, have fun!
