built not bought '89 build
#736
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From: West Valley
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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From: Springville, UT
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 5.2 V8, Dual cold air, dual batts, E-fan, Sanden OBA
Remember when i was saying i remember reading about someone who had cut off the wedges on a Ford 44 and made a normal CA mount setup?
here ya go
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/sho...Build-Up/page2
here ya go
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/sho...Build-Up/page2
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From: SLC, UT
Year: 1989 2 door
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He didn't show any of the retubing, but I think I'm gonna just run the radius ARM setup w/some 2x2 tube with ballistics square threaded inserts at the joints. Then just weld em to the radius arms like corys running.
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From: Springville, UT
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 5.2 V8, Dual cold air, dual batts, E-fan, Sanden OBA
Originally Posted by builtnotbought89'
He didn't show any of the retubing, but I think I'm gonna just run the radius ARM setup w/some 2x2 tube with ballistics square threaded inserts at the joints. Then just weld em to the radius arms like corys running.
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From: Herriman, Utah
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
76 and 77 have welded on wedges, you can cut the wedges off and still use the axle.
up to 75 is EB width, like 6 inches narrower and I think they all had welded wedges and drum brakes.
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Year: 1989 2 door
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EB width? Ya I was reading back threw your build & seen you mention that! Granted radius arms will be cheaper, eliminating them seems simpler!
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From: Herriman, Utah
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
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If you're doing a 44/9, the ideal 44 is a 76 or 77 with the welded wedges. Cut the wedges off and run a 3 link. If i hadn't gotten mine so cheap I would have done that.
But FYI, Dylan built a front 3 link on a cast wedge axle with no issues. Welded the control arm brackets to the bottom of the wedges, and built coil buckets on top of them. Works fine.
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From: Spanish Fork, Utah
Year: 1989
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Originally Posted by PingPong
I have seen more then one radias arm build where they extended out the arms by welding dom over the radias arm stud... and putting a flex joint on the frame end.
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So the '75 F150 isn't a full width & is 6" narrower then yours? Says its the same length here. http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana44...Early%20Bronco
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From: Herriman, Utah
Year: 1994
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So the '75 F150 isn't a full width & is 6" narrower then yours? Says its the same length here. http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana44...Early%20Bronco
Something is screwy with the info on that page. On the EB info. it shows up to 77 the WMS was 58-59 inches. Which is the narrow 44. I guess I didnt realize the EB's went all the way to 77.
The Full Size broncos had the same setup as the F-150's, the wms on my front 44 is like 65 inches. (6 inches wider than the EB's)
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Just a lil clarity on the HPd44. Starting in 1973 ford switched to an open knuckle D44. From 73-early 75 they had drum brakes, and weld on wedges. Only down side is they had drum brakes... WELL chevy/Waggy outers are cheap and easy to find. Unless you are dead set on running 5x5.5 you can get away with running 6x5.5 for the same money if not less then converting to 5x5.5.
The only reason why I know this is I am running a 73 housing with chevy outers.. which are mor common on the trail then the ford outers.
The only reason why I know this is I am running a 73 housing with chevy outers.. which are mor common on the trail then the ford outers.
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From: Herriman, Utah
Year: 1994
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Just a lil clarity on the HPd44. Starting in 1973 ford switched to an open knuckle D44. From 73-early 75 they had drum brakes, and weld on wedges. Only down side is they had drum brakes... WELL chevy/Waggy outers are cheap and easy to find. Unless you are dead set on running 5x5.5 you can get away with running 6x5.5 for the same money if not less then converting to 5x5.5.
The only reason why I know this is I am running a 73 housing with chevy outers.. which are mor common on the trail then the ford outers.
The only reason why I know this is I am running a 73 housing with chevy outers.. which are mor common on the trail then the ford outers.
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From: SLC, UT
Year: 1989 2 door
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Zachs got a '75 F150 44/9" open knuckle/drums 5x5.5, he's getting me the hookup for $100 for the set!
What would be my options for the 9" w/6x5.5 shafts?
What would be my options for the 9" w/6x5.5 shafts?
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hope it helps some lol