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Old 02-19-2016, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000CHERO
First real snow fall of the year for where I live, got a chance to really play with the lockers:

Did one way with fresh snow, no tracks, in 2wd. Jeep didn't even feel like it needed 4wd. I could feel the LSD engaging both wheels. Then played with the front a little.
So, how did you feel the LSD engaging the wheels/tires ? LSD should be seamless and constant.

Now the locker, I get that, very easy to feel it engage & disengage if turning going slow, but moving forward, should be pretty much seamless as well.

I know mine are.

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Subbed, flipped through quick. I'm about to embark on a complete build up too. Where abouts in Buffalo are you? I'm right outside the city off Clinton st
Lancaster, about a mile from the intersection of Transit and Genessee. Welcome aboard haha!
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So, how did you feel the LSD engaging the wheels/tires ? LSD should be seamless and constant. Now the locker, I get that, very easy to feel it engage & disengage if turning going slow, but moving forward, should be pretty much seamless as well. I know mine are.
It is pretty much seamless. But having driven with an open rear end all my life there is a distinct feel in the driving, as well as the noise, when the LSD is spinning both wheels. I confirmed this by parking on a steep, slick, incline and playing around with it: just tapping the gas to get the wheels to spin you could feel one spinning and one not doing anything, engaging the parking brake just a little for some resistance and you can feel BOTH wheels spinning in unison. Also with parking brake off and higher throttle I could feel the LSD doing its thing as well.
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Subbed, flipped through quick. I'm about to embark on a complete build up too. Where abouts in Buffalo are you? I'm right outside the city off Clinton st
Also, look for the thread on this forum about XJ's in the Buffalo/Rochester area. I just brought it back to life and want to keep it going.
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Just got back from Goodyear. Had them mount an balance the 33x12.5 to my spare wheel, once I had it up next to my jeep I told I'd take them immediately. This thing is a MONSTER! I can understand a quarter inch here or there, but I've been seriously cheated by BFG all these years! Look at the damn photos, the two tires aren't even close!

BFG AT 33x10.5 w/ ~2500-3000mi on them VS brand new Goodyear MTRcK 33x12.5:






With how big and true these are to size, I don't see the need to go to 35's ANYTIME soon. I'll beat on these for a however long they last then reevaluate.
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I have the other 4 coming in tomorrow to get mounted/balanced. Being the haggler I am, after rebates and free installation and me getting the younger service manager to go down lower than he should have, $1100 out the door for FIVE MTRcK!

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Originally Posted by 2000CHERO
Also, look for the thread on this forum about XJ's in the Buffalo/Rochester area. I just brought it back to life and want to keep it going.
Will do, I'm suprised I haven't seen you around more often.
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Will do, I'm suprised I haven't seen you around more often.
Well my jeep was parked from May of last year until the and of this past January, might have something to do with it. It'll be making its way around now haha, if you see me flash me down!
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For sure. Mines just a tub at the moment. No front clip no drive train nothing. Enter the 97,98, 99, 00 Franken jeep lol
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So got to Goodyear at 1300. Left at 1630 with tires still not balanced to zero. I said get them as close to zero as possible and I'll take them to Dunn Tire up the road to get Road Force balanced. If I can't get them to balance good there, they're going back to Goodyear and I'm getting KM2's. I've read enough on these tires to not want to deal with bad batches haha.

I know more than half of it is who does the balance and the machine used.

He(service manager) felt bad they couldn't get them balanced good so he gave me each tire for $210 out the door. I have my appointment for Dunn Tire at 1000 tomorrow.








The funny thing is each tire was not even close to zero; one was still +2. I took the Jeep to go grocery shopping, even got it up to 55mph. Didn't shake or shimmy wtf haha.
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Yeah I have thrown in balance beads and been fine every time.
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Yeah I have thrown in balance beads and been fine every time.
We'll see how the Road Force balancing goes. I expected problems after reading pretty much every thread on every forum, even those not related to Jeeps. So last night I ordered a bag of beads from HD Offroad, $20 shipped for a 50oz bag.
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What size are you running. I bought new stt pros for 800 mounted and balanced with beads cause I know the guy. 32x11.5x15
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What size are you running. I bought new stt pros for 800 mounted and balanced with beads cause I know the guy. 32x11.5x15
33x12.5x15.

He did get it down to $200/tire, so $1000+tax and tire fee. So he took off quite a bit.

These tires are notorious for balancing problems dating back to the original MTR's haha.

I'm going to try the Road Force balance tomorrow if not try beads. Or maybe I'll just try the beads before the RF, that way if the beads work I'm not wasting money..

I don't know, how have the beads worked for you? Slower speeds, hitting bumps, highway, etc?
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I didn't have a problem with em. Felt funny till the bag broke that's about it



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