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Old 09-19-2013, 02:45 PM
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You'll love having no carpet. Looks like it will be nicely done.
of course it will be nicely done, I am directly involved
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of course it will be nicely done, I am directly involved
Oh well in that case lol.
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i also drive mine 45 miles minimum every day with a flowmaster 40 howling below the floorboards
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Originally Posted by dukie564
yea - couldn't convince myself not to do SOMETHING about the sound/heat though since it's my daily driver. Hopefully the plan pays off to put the liner over the sound deadening sheets
I am interested in hearing your feedback and taking a ride with you. Take a bunch of pictures including installation steps.

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of course it will be nicely done, I am directly involved
Good point.

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i also drive mine 45 miles minimum every day with a flowmaster 40 howling below the floorboards
My exhaust dumped into my cargo area for a few months, it sucked ***.
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i hope it works out well ive been wanting to bed linne my floors too but its also my DD and it get HOT down here as it is lol
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Originally Posted by cleenrob
i hope it works out well ive been wanting to bed linne my floors too but its also my DD and it get HOT down here as it is lol
This. I'm going to Bedline mine soon.
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Dukie do you have a link for you sound deadening mats? Also are they water resistant/proof? I'm curious about doing this for mine too. Even with the piece of carpet that I cut out and thre in the back cargo area, when I have my A/C on and turn my head, it's cool on one side of my face and roasting on the other side.
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This is the sound deadener i bought - 2 layers of foil and a 50mil butyl substrate
SD7 Super Sound Deadener Double No Smell Aluminum 100 Butyl Dynamat Sample | eBay

Everywhere I researched said that Butyl is the material you want for this - it doesn't smell like asphalt-based products, and more importantly it doesn't melt. It also is a viscoelastic material (unlike asphalt), which makes it a much better vibration dampener - or more accurately it's a "constrained layer viscoelastic vibration damper" (CLD).

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Originally Posted by dukie564
This is the sound deadener i bought - 2 layers of foil and a 50mil butyl substrate
SD7 Super Sound Deadener Double No Smell Aluminum 100 Butyl Dynamat Sample | eBay

Everywhere I researched said that Butyl is the material you want for this - it doesn't smell like asphalt-based products, and more importantly it doesn't melt. It also is a viscoelastic material (unlike asphalt), which makes it a much better vibration dampener - or more accurately it's a "constrained layer viscoelastic vibration damper" (CLD).
And you can paint over it easily and it will nice?
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i'll be roughening it up and using epoxy primer before the bedliner. I doubt it would stick to it well without doing the epoxy primer first.
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Originally Posted by dukie564
i'll be roughening it up and using epoxy primer before the bedliner. I doubt it would stick to it well without doing the epoxy primer first.
Etch primer would work too, acid bonds to just about everything through microscopic scarification.
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yea - except the rep for monstaliner specifically forbids the use of self-etching primer
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Originally Posted by dukie564
yea - except the rep for monstaliner specifically forbids the use of self-etching primer
based on what? fear of out gassing? full cure then locked in with a 2K epoxy there will be no out gassing. and we can then ensure anchor to the substrate. That foil is pretty slick... stuff might not mechanically adhere
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testing from what i understand, supposedly they have had adhesion issues - i guess the coating doesn't like phosphic acid.

With 2K epoxy over top though you're probably right it'll be fine...i'll send him an email to ask for his recommendation.
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Originally Posted by dukie564
testing from what i understand, supposedly they have had adhesion issues - i guess the coating doesn't like phosphic acid.

With 2K epoxy over top though you're probably right it'll be fine...i'll send him an email to ask for his recommendation.
We have had problems with some coating breakdown sue to the etch, so we do exactly that and use the etch as an adhesion promoter then lock it down with the epoxy and shoot top coat... I have some MIL-DTL-53022 we can lock it down with.


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