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Old 08-31-2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MUDRUNNER AZ

Thats why i have both an xj and a zj Love the v8 power(on the zj). But it only sees light wheelin.
Good thinking lol. My zj wasnt built like my xj but I still loved the thing.
Old 08-31-2011 | 08:02 PM
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Ha ha ya the v8 is awesome until you break the turdy five
Old 08-31-2011 | 09:19 PM
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damn. First cory and now you make me want to go to tons...
Old 08-31-2011 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by customzj73
Ha ha ya the v8 is awesome until you break the turdy five
The 5.9 has the d44a i think the alum center. I guess not much better but rught now i only use it for light wheelin. the xj is built to play.
Old 09-01-2011 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeWI
damn. First cory and now you make me want to go to tons...
Ya I saw a couple people do it and I remember telling myself I would never go that far and never run bigger then a 35" tire... now here I am
Old 09-01-2011 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MUDRUNNER AZ

The 5.9 has the d44a i think the alum center. I guess not much better but rught now i only use it for light wheelin. the xj is built to play.
You my friend have a bad *** xj, as for the 44a- its not to bad if its trussed. I trussed and Lincoln locked my buddies for him and he beats the he'll out of that thing without issues.
Old 09-01-2011 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by customzj73
You my friend have a bad *** xj, as for the 44a- its not to bad if its trussed. I trussed and Lincoln locked my buddies for him and he beats the he'll out of that thing without issues.
Thx someday down the road when and if the xj wears out (more like when it wears out) i my swap the 60 and front 44 over to the zj and make that my play toy but for now its saved for mellow runs. Yours is a sweet build i have been following it.
Old 09-02-2011 | 09:08 PM
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Just discovered your build thread Zach, just wanted to post up (subscribe) and say right on. I like how your shaking it up a bit with some trail run pics, keeps it interesting. All tech and no play makes Jack a dull boy! I look forward to following where your going with that much beef! May the fab gods be with you!
Old 09-02-2011 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Desert Rat
Just discovered your build thread Zach, just wanted to post up (subscribe) and say right on. I like how your shaking it up a bit with some trail run pics, keeps it interesting. All tech and no play makes Jack a dull boy! I look forward to following where your going with that much beef! May the fab gods be with you!
Ha ha well hello Jeff! I will keep lots of pictures coming!! Right now I'm just waiting on my order from ballistic fab to get here... its killing me waiting!!!
Old 09-18-2011 | 12:00 PM
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Looking good!!! This thing rocks!
Old 09-19-2011 | 08:33 AM
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Updates.....????
Old 09-19-2011 | 10:36 PM
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Updates.....????
Okay ha,tomorrow I will update it- I have got quite a bit done
Here is a teaser...
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Old 09-20-2011 | 01:05 AM
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FYI: 14 bolts are 30 spline (coarse) almost identical in diameter to 35 spline (fine).
the dude arguing about the ford 7.5" definitely has no clue.

Also those dodge outers are stronger (stock 32 or 33 spline (depending on the year) vs stock 30 spline) to the ford outers. You should be able to use TTB F250 ball joint Dana50 outers. They are very very similar to dana 60 balljoint outers except the caliper is rotated.

Also the dodge 32 spline unit bearing outer won't strip out or explode like the stock 30 spline ford hubs/ stub shafts
In my opinion it's only worth swapping outers if you plan on getting 35spline alloy stuff, even then you'll want drive flanges eventually because 35 spline hubs don't last long... ask me how I know Tyler blew his up too.

Alloy 32 spline outers and the stock unit bearings will be enough. This is what Goatman on NAXJA did on his buggy and he finished KOH in it.

Anyways I have a thread in the dodge area on pirate called "dodge 60 tech" check it out for more info.

My friend Jeff and I also dig a long side custom shaft from dutchman and retubed one to get rid of the CAD and swapped it under his suburban. We also had to do a custom inner seal because on the dodges the seal is on the cad, not the housing: lots of work. Honestly though after pulling one apart the CAD shaft collar is pretty huge and the axles increase in diameter where the diconnect is. If it were me I'd truss over it (because it's cast and prone to crack if you jump or bounce the front end) and buy/ or build a cad cable disconnect get some 32 spline alloy outers and weld the front (with hydro assist obviously).

Keep up the good work. Keep it shiny side up.
Old 09-20-2011 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravy
FYI: 14 bolts are 30 spline (coarse) almost identical in diameter to 35 spline (fine).
the dude arguing about the ford 7.5" definitely has no clue.

Also those dodge outers are stronger (stock 32 or 33 spline (depending on the year) vs stock 30 spline) to the ford outers. You should be able to use TTB F250 ball joint Dana50 outers. They are very very similar to dana 60 balljoint outers except the caliper is rotated.

Also the dodge 32 spline unit bearing outer won't strip out or explode like the stock 30 spline ford hubs/ stub shafts
In my opinion it's only worth swapping outers if you plan on getting 35spline alloy stuff, even then you'll want drive flanges eventually because 35 spline hubs don't last long... ask me how I know Tyler blew his up too.

Alloy 32 spline outers and the stock unit bearings will be enough. This is what Goatman on NAXJA did on his buggy and he finished KOH in it.

Anyways I have a thread in the dodge area on pirate called "dodge 60 tech" check it out for more info.

My friend Jeff and I also dig a long side custom shaft from dutchman and retubed one to get rid of the CAD and swapped it under his suburban. We also had to do a custom inner seal because on the dodges the seal is on the cad, not the housing: lots of work. Honestly though after pulling one apart the CAD shaft collar is pretty huge and the axles increase in diameter where the diconnect is. If it were me I'd truss over it (because it's cast and prone to crack if you jump or bounce the front end) and buy/ or build a cad cable disconnect get some 32 spline alloy outers and weld the front (with hydro assist obviously).

Keep up the good work. Keep it shiny side up.
Well the last couple of weeks i have been scouring the junkyards for a Ford dana 60. I figured if i can get one for under 375.00 then ill be good because thats about how much a one piece shaft costs from EMS. If i cant find one by the time i start the front i will just use the dodge dana 60. To be honest i prefer the unit bearings, easy to change and carry spares. The real setback to me is that it is low pinion. Ill have to check out your thread on pirate
Old 09-20-2011 | 07:11 PM
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def one of the most impressive zj's ive seen, great work. really hope its a long time before i get the urge to try to do somethin like this to my xj ha


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