1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee overheat at Idle
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1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee overheat at Idle
Hello, I'm hoping someone from here can point me in the right direct direction. I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.2L V8, It has the 318cc in it. It keeps overheating at idle. I have replaced everything.
It has had a new radiator put in, water pump, belt tensioner, upper and lower radiator hoses, new thermostat (195°F), new thermostat housing, new clutch fan, new fan shroud. This fan is mechanically driven.
I have no idea why it keeps overheating, I don't know if the head gasket is blown, it runs great, sounds wonderful, no squeeks, or squeals on cold start or anything. There is plenty of fluid in radiator and plenty of fluid in reservoir. No clear smoke from the exhaust,
Please someone point me in the direction to get this overheating issue fixed. When driving down the road, a/c blows ice cold, heater works just fine nice and hot. Temps are about 180ish when driving 60mph+ on interstates but when I hit traffic and sit about 5-10 minutes the temperature keeps creeping up. If anyone has had this problem please let me know how to fix this issue.
It has had a new radiator put in, water pump, belt tensioner, upper and lower radiator hoses, new thermostat (195°F), new thermostat housing, new clutch fan, new fan shroud. This fan is mechanically driven.
I have no idea why it keeps overheating, I don't know if the head gasket is blown, it runs great, sounds wonderful, no squeeks, or squeals on cold start or anything. There is plenty of fluid in radiator and plenty of fluid in reservoir. No clear smoke from the exhaust,
Please someone point me in the direction to get this overheating issue fixed. When driving down the road, a/c blows ice cold, heater works just fine nice and hot. Temps are about 180ish when driving 60mph+ on interstates but when I hit traffic and sit about 5-10 minutes the temperature keeps creeping up. If anyone has had this problem please let me know how to fix this issue.
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could it be the temp sensor? try a compression test on the cylinders, that should let ya know if the head gasket is bad. you might also need the system flushed as I've seen in other vehicles were the water journals were plugged full of stop leak and other crap in the heads.
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Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
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Also, I'm pretty sure your engine is bigger than 318cc. That would be tiny even for a motorcycle. (It might be 318 ci, but I don't know your engine.)
That usually points to a fan clutch (for mechanical fans) or an inoperative electrical fan (for vehicles so equipped).
I'm not familiar with the V8 setup. Are you sure you have a mechanical fan, and are you sure you do not also have an electrical fan?
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The overheating happening like that only when the Jeep is sitting still and is idling sounds like a fan issue to me too. It certainly makes the most sense. The fan does the primary work of keeping the engine running cool when there is not another source of air flowing over everything like how there will be when you are driving and moving down the road.
Do you know how, or have you spun the mechanical fan as a test indicator for seeing if it is showing as being faulty or not?
Do you know how, or have you spun the mechanical fan as a test indicator for seeing if it is showing as being faulty or not?
Last edited by Noah911; 12-07-2019 at 05:00 PM.
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First step to any cooling issue is to use a radiator pressure tester to see if the system is leaking coolant, either internally or externally.
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Um well if it's not holding pressure that would be because it is what...? Leaking. thank you
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When using a radiator/coolant system pressure tester to look for leaks (or, pressure being lost somehow). You will be using the radiator filler neck spot to plug into and hook up the pressure tester (a mini bicycle pump looking thing), for when you are pressurizing the system to get the readings. Doing it this way makes it impossible to know wether or not you are losing pressure via the radiator cap though..
If it is testing fine and holds pressure when you test it like this? Another thing to consider doing at this point is to just go ahead and try replacing the radiator cap next. A radiator cap only runs around five dollars new from the parts store. They should almost always have the right cap in stock at all times. I would still verify any new radiator cap is actually stamped as being the correct level of PSI called for by the stock specifications. A parts store radiator cap will probably not be an OEM piece.. Even so, it will most likely still do a much better job than any original radiator cap that may still be on these old Jeeps anymore right now though, or any other older radiator cap.
If it is testing fine and holds pressure when you test it like this? Another thing to consider doing at this point is to just go ahead and try replacing the radiator cap next. A radiator cap only runs around five dollars new from the parts store. They should almost always have the right cap in stock at all times. I would still verify any new radiator cap is actually stamped as being the correct level of PSI called for by the stock specifications. A parts store radiator cap will probably not be an OEM piece.. Even so, it will most likely still do a much better job than any original radiator cap that may still be on these old Jeeps anymore right now though, or any other older radiator cap.
Last edited by Noah911; 12-13-2019 at 01:17 PM.
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A good radiator pressure test kit has a sleeve that you put the cap on and the tester on the other end, pump it up, and it should blow off at the specified pressure. When I said "not holding pressure" I meant the cap.
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Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
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Aaaannnd it's been two weeks with no response from the OP. Another one-post wonder. I guess he didn't get spoon fed quite as much as he wanted.
Or maybe he died. Dunno.
Or maybe he died. Dunno.
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Some people don't realize this ain't Facebook where you can get an instant response! Don't come here if that's what you want. Pay the price and ask an on-line mechanic!
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How many times have I used it..? Only once on the day she initially set it up for me.
When was the last time I was on this Facebook account..? That same day it was set up for me.
I don't really know why? This is just how it happens to be for some reason. I have no plans to open a new one, or start using this other one either.. I just don't
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