dave1123

Greasey coveralls, baseball cap and a ponytail might help! Just joking! I think it's a gender problem.

mistyscherokee

Im having this issue aswell but its intermitten and am throwing multiple codes. Throwing a mis fire on clyender 4 ? Changing plugs out today to see if it helps

jeepgirl420

Ha ha it totally is! If you don't look like a man you can't do the job apparently! I worked on a ranch taking care of 68+ horses by myself 5 days a week. I'm not a stranger to hard work. Maybe ill just roll around in my engine before I go to.the next shop. Ha ha!

jeepgirl420

I had this problem when I first got this jeep. I changed out all my plugs and wires, put in a new distributor cap and rotor and let my battery sit unhooked over night and haven't had that code again. Let hope that's all your problem is! Good luck fellow jeeper!

dave1123

You know, Jeepgirl, I'm a retired toolmaker with over 40 years experience. I've been interviewed for many jobs in my career, but the most intensive, comprehensive, and interesting one was done by a lead shop foreman who was a woman! This was amazing in a trade that is predominatly male, to find a woman who was really sharp and knew her trade. Because I was young at the time, it really opened my eyes to the fact that gender has NOTHING TO DO WITH INTELLIGENCE!! OR the ability to do hard work.

This woman was NOT one with a masculine personality, if you know what I mean. After spending over an hour touring the shop with her and answering questions, I got the impression from the other men who worked for her that she was fair and honest with them, but booked no "bull" from them and wanted the jobs done right. I was impressed because most men in this trade don't work well with a woman in a position of authority. It really is a gender thing.

One of the last holdouts to this gender thing is the military. They are not really willing to put women in a combat role because the instinct is for men to protect women above all else. They don't want a mission compromised because guys are trying too hard to protect their female members. This is an inborn species instinct and very hard to change, especially in a Christian society.

I guess I've said my piece. Probably not "on topic" at all. Just keep hammering away at them. They'll respect you after a while.

jeepgirl420

Thank you Dave! Its very refreshing to talk to a man with such an open view. It absolutely blows my mind that there is still such closed minded thinking like this. I knew I was in for it when I decided to try and get into a male dominated career choice. I am a pretty small girl. I can see in their eyes they are thinking, "this girl probably can't even lift a battery ". It would.blow their mind to see me moving hay bales into the feed shed with no trouble. Lol. Thank you for your words of inspiration. It gives me hope ill find something eventually. If not ill just have to open my own shop.

dave1123

I'll tell you something else! When I got out of the Navy, I was in the best physical condition of my life. When I got home, a friend asked me if I would help stack hay bales in the wagon as they came out of the baler. By the end of the day, I was whipped! Sorry to say I didn't go back for the second day. I'd been in Cuba in August, but that hay field was hotter than I've ever felt!

When you open your shop, I wish you all the luck!

jeepgirl420

A lot of people don't realize how labor intensive ranch work and livestock really is. You can be fit as a fiddle and still be bone tired after a day of ranch work. People always asked how I do it. All id say is it is all in your mind set, and my mind is set on this. Lol. So while I've got your attention sir may I ask another question about my jeep?

dave1123

Why not? That's what I'm on this forum for. Just remember this is an OPINION site. Not all replies are fact, but I'll do what I can.

jeepgirl420

Hi Dave! Sorry for such a long delay in my response, but I got a job at a shop!!! Woo-hoo! My boss is totally thrilled to have a female mechanic. Its so awesome! Anyways, my question. My jeep randomly throws code p0133. By randomly I mean it will come on, ill disconnect the battery, and sometimes its gone, sometimes its pending. Then it will come back on later. The quickest I've had it come back is the same day, but most of the time it is off for a few weeks to a couple months, and then one day out of nowhere there it is again. Now I did break a clip on the wiring harness that goes to the sensor that goes down into the manifold directly behind the thermostat housing one day when I was working on it, but it connects and stays connected. Plus I thought this was a coolant sensor, not an oxygen sensor like the code says it is. (I think that's what it was, my brain is buzzing from working all week still.)What is your opinion as to what could be causing this? Some one told me the jeeps computer does a diagnostic cycle every three days and if it comes up that regularly it definitley needs to be changed, but its not regular and there is no pattern to it at all. The only "regularity" is it almost always comes on after a decent road trip to the lake or river. (Over a 100 mile round trip through mountain roads for me. I live in the desert.)

jeepgirl420

And I don't get to make that trip very often!

dave1123

Okay. girl. My code book says a P0133 is 02 sensor slow response, meaning the 02 sensor doesn't respond every time when cycled for data. This sensor is working, but it's tired and should be replaced. I would check the plug and make sure the contacts are clean and not losing connection occasionally.

I had a technition once tell me (back when everything was OBD1) "If you have a problem you just can't find, start by replacing the 02 sensor." It makes sense because this thing operates in a 600* enviroment and is subject to deposits that might cause it to malfunction. There are 2 circuits in an 02 sensor. One is the heater circuit, the other is the sensor circuit. I'm not certain how it functions, but I know it senses the amount of oxygen left in the exhaust gases and controls the fuel mixture to ensure a complete burn. The downstream 02 sensor monitors the efficiency of the catalytic convertor. The older 2-wire sensors only have the sensor circuit. I could be wrong, but I think the downstream sensor is the only one with a heater circuit.

I would suspect there is an intermittant connection in your plug. At least you have somewhere to start.

Good luck with your new job!