driving my 93 AWD with no front drive shaft.....
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driving my 93 AWD with no front drive shaft.....
Will it hurt anything to drive around while I get the front driveshaft rebuilt?
Someone told me it will eventually destroy the transfer case. Just wanted to get a second opinion, thanks.
Someone told me it will eventually destroy the transfer case. Just wanted to get a second opinion, thanks.
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I have also been told it will wipe out the Transfer Case.
I do know there is a "slipping" coupler inside the case. It requires drag or tension on both sides, or one side turns freely while the other side does all the work. Think about a rear end with 1 broken axle...same difference. The good axle will still work, sort of.
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I do know there is a "slipping" coupler inside the case. It requires drag or tension on both sides, or one side turns freely while the other side does all the work. Think about a rear end with 1 broken axle...same difference. The good axle will still work, sort of.
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When you don't have a 2WD position for the t-case shifter, driving in 4WD with the front drive-shaft removed can/will damage the t-case. How long does this take? I don't know.
It also presents a safety issue because park will no longer prevent the vehicle from rolling.
It also presents a safety issue because park will no longer prevent the vehicle from rolling.
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You could put it 4lo when parking it... On a quadratrac system The full time operation has a kind of limited slip diff in the T case it will burn up because it will try to send power to the front drive shaft...
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Putting it in 4LO when parking won't make any difference. Since the front drive-shaft is removed that will allow the t-case's front yoke to spin, and let the vehicle roll even though it's in park, or in gear if a manual trans.
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Could I swap out the T-case with one that has a 2WD position, because that would be preferable eventually.
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Yes you can, there's lot of info out there about this. Here's one link on it. Click->->DELTA 4X4 CLUB TECHNICAL DEPARTMENT - 249 TO 242 TRANSFER CASE SWAP
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That's very good to hear.
I would like to get it driving correctly first though, because money is tight these days. Whatever is the most cost effective solution is what I need, but if it's not much more to do what I want then obviously that's what I'll do.
I would like to get it driving correctly first though, because money is tight these days. Whatever is the most cost effective solution is what I need, but if it's not much more to do what I want then obviously that's what I'll do.
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Yes the ZJ will roll if the front DS is out, and you do not have the parking brake engaged, ask me how I know. Make sure you're parking brake works, and continue on.
Yes you can swap the T-cases, I've done it twice on my ZJ. This is the best link I've found for the T-case swap-
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/t...-np242-685644/
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I guess I'll drive it while I hunt for the right T-case. I need one with a .750" 23 spline input shaft.
242 or 231 though? Not sure I understand the difference?
242 or 231 though? Not sure I understand the difference?
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NP242 offers an AWD/4H option that can be run on pavement.
The NP231 is the much stronger case.
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I might better get the 242 because I need to be able to haul my sled safely and I want AWD/4WD for that. It's only 60 miles each way, but if the 231 won't handle being run in 4WD then I can' get that.
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Very good, thank you. What are the limitations of 4 HIGH on the 231? Could I go 50mph on snowy roads hauling my sled in 4 HIGH?
I might better get the 242 because I need to be able to haul my sled safely and I want AWD/4WD for that. It's only 60 miles each way, but if the 231 won't handle being run in 4WD then I can' get that.
I might better get the 242 because I need to be able to haul my sled safely and I want AWD/4WD for that. It's only 60 miles each way, but if the 231 won't handle being run in 4WD then I can' get that.
BTW, most people who swap 242's into their ZJ's for the AWD option, end up never using the AWD, and resenting the strength lost over a 231 TC.
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The roads where I go snowmobiling are always bad enough to appreciate the fact that it's in 4WD. Plus I just like being in 4WD when it's snowy. Plus plus the sled will feel much heavier behind the Jeep than it did behind my ex-quad cab. Glad I realized this now.
The Jeep is really going to be more of a utility vehicle and DD than anything. Still going to put 31s or so on it and get it muddy I don't want to go so big I lose a lot of gas mileage.
The Jeep is really going to be more of a utility vehicle and DD than anything. Still going to put 31s or so on it and get it muddy I don't want to go so big I lose a lot of gas mileage.
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