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Yeah....well, in that case, stick with your 97. After 98 everything gets very complicated.
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Id love to find a pcm with out the skim activated, and then just remove the immobiliser and have steel keys. No one is going to go anywhere 6 months of the year, and the other 6 months I have it outside my work window, or my bedroom window. Finding one tho used without the skim enabled is as rare as hens teeth it seems.
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Id love to find a pcm with out the skim activated, and then just remove the immobiliser and have steel keys. No one is going to go anywhere 6 months of the year, and the other 6 months I have it outside my work window, or my bedroom window. Finding one tho used without the skim enabled is as rare as hens teeth it seems.
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Ok this whole thing is not over yet for me. I am in desperate need of trying to figure out how to get the pin code for my Jeep and a friends Dodge Ram. My key programmer will work if I can just figure out who/how to get the pins from. Honestly this whole damn thing is a bit ridiculous.
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Yep... Like I say... Everything is now designed with city availability in mind where there is a parts house, locksmith, or dealer on every other corner. Being rural myself I feel your pain, because I run into stuff like this all the time that is geared for the city and not at all practical for remote areas or the rural lifestyle.
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No its not. Its almost worth it to buy a complete set from a boneyard else where and go through the trouble of having the vin burned into the new pcm. I see them once in a while advertised from wrecking yards near where I grew up in central Washington. Pcm, immobiliser, and both keys for 350 shipped.....at the moment its awfully damn tempting...
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Different idea, along the same sort tho, is there a way to take the repeater system from a remote start setup and instead of make it repeat the signal for just remote starting, make it repeat on key on-ignition on? Just a thought so I have more than 1 key. After loosing it in October, Ive been nervous as hell about loosing it again.
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Different idea, along the same sort tho, is there a way to take the repeater system from a remote start setup and instead of make it repeat the signal for just remote starting, make it repeat on key on-ignition on? Just a thought so I have more than 1 key. After loosing it in October, Ive been nervous as hell about loosing it again.
I would rather have someone steal it than go through what you have been going through with this thing just so that it can belong to you and use it again. I realize it won't be long when all new cars are like this, but when it does, I won't be buying one. If it is still legal I will instead dump 20 grand in a classic before I buy a new one. At some point enough is enough with this crap, far too many things to break or go wrong.
What they did here was create a situation where you depend on third party services and permission to use what you think should be yours when you need it.
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I miss my 66 Plymouth Fury, 72 Riviera, 86 Bronco or my 95 Subaru Impreza Wagon....If I lost the keys, just remove the ignition switch, and go buy another....
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They do it this way so that the finance institutions can lock you out if they decide they want to repossess the vehicle for non-payment. How much you want to bet whoever you financed it through has access to activate or deactivate that vehicle. I can tell you without a doubt for sure that law enforcement can. And no matter how secure they say that system is it can still be hacked.
So they are putting us between a rock and a hard place "for our own good" with some of this technology. The third party dependency and control bothers me the most about what has happened to you with this. I have learned a lot from your post here and it reaffirms my feelings.
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I own it out right, and as an 01 with 176k on the clock its not exactly a hot ticket item to wander off....And yes, and out here in Bush Alaska, I know of at least 9 other coworkers in the same f-ing situation, and prolly about 200 in the delta. At least tho if they can get the security pin I program keys for them...Mine is locked up like my connex where I run my ammo reloading equipment..
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I own it out right, and as an 01 with 176k on the clock its not exactly a hot ticket item to wander off....And yes, and out here in Bush Alaska, I know of at least 9 other coworkers in the same f-ing situation, and prolly about 200 in the delta. At least tho if they can get the security pin I program keys for them...Mine is locked up like my connex where I run my ammo reloading equipment..
This is why I absolutely hate auto engineers. It is their job to create issues like this on purpose by design. It is sneaky underhanded deceptive business practice. The worst part is there are no consumer protections regulating this reality. The only time they will do anything is when it turns into a serious operation safety issue, and even then only after the human losses are great enough to gather attention.
In the mean time our brakes do work absolutely fantastic once we can finally get back in our car to use them...
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Our maintenance director is going to see if our resident locksmith can qualify as a fully qualified smith so we can get pins for vehicles. Doesn't help me with mine, but it does help about 90-95% of the other Mopar folks. Ill never own a post 98 Mopar ever again...
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The drug in this case are the security pins.