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Old 08-07-2013, 05:04 PM
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Unloaded easy driving I have seen 7.3's hit 19 mpg. I would say any of them I would be scared of 350K plus miles and shy away. Now that being said, any "Ford" can have injector issues because of lack of oil maintenance. My advice, wait until as cold as possible, and when started listen for a skip, then get it as hot as possible and check for a skip, if it passes both and no noticeable smoke then injectors are probably ok. All of said engines are parent bore, and cannot rebuild it without boring the block. The strongest setup by design is an inline engine, no side loading of pistons etc. If you do go with a 7.3 a trick to help with oil and injector life is easy to do when changing oil so just PM me. Good luck, and congrats
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Diesel Daze, I hate chevy front ends when it comes to working on them haha.. oh well, everyone has opinions, I am not exempt
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Originally Posted by Trimmy
Look into a dmax, I have a buddy that just bought an 05 with 150k on it for $15000 out the door and its nice. We have them all over the place in Ohio for way less then 20 and I am talking loaded 06 LBZs.
Wish I lived in Ohio.lol 2005 Prices in WA (Craigslist) are 20,000+. In one City I found one truck for $18,000. Wan't a four door though. Hopefully going to check out some dealerships tomorrow
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Originally Posted by mentalbreakdown00
Unloaded easy driving I have seen 7.3's hit 19 mpg. I would say any of them I would be scared of 350K plus miles and shy away. Now that being said, any "Ford" can have injector issues because of lack of oil maintenance. My advice, wait until as cold as possible, and when started listen for a skip, then get it as hot as possible and check for a skip, if it passes both and no noticeable smoke then injectors are probably ok. All of said engines are parent bore, and cannot rebuild it without boring the block. The strongest setup by design is an inline engine, no side loading of pistons etc. If you do go with a 7.3 a trick to help with oil and injector life is easy to do when changing oil so just PM me. Good luck, and congrats
Please tell me your not gonna tell him to change his HPOP oil
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why actually yes, Navistar has sent out a bulletin about it on oil change neglected trucks we have to do it before replacing the HPOP..... change the oil and filter and drain the resivoir and refill it. They have stated that on all oil neglected trucks it will help replenish fresh oil to new or used injectors and a new or used hpop... and if they will pay for it under warranty.........
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I doubt there are any 7.3's under warranty. So your saying that changing roughly 1qt of oil out of about the 3qts that are left behind after a typical oil change is gonna make a difference? Fact is the in the HPOP reservoir is the same oil that runs the rest of the system, so being the fact it got left behind on this oil change it will get caught on the next change.
The best advice would be to do regular oil changes, skip the HPOP oil change and put in a bypass filter no matter which diesel you purchase.
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I doubt there are any 7.3's under warranty. So your saying that changing roughly 1qt of oil out of about the 3qts that are left behind after a typical oil change is gonna make a difference? Fact is the in the HPOP reservoir is the same oil that runs the rest of the system, so being the fact it got left behind on this oil change it will get caught on the next change.
The best advice would be to do regular oil changes, skip the HPOP oil change and put in a bypass filter no matter which diesel you purchase.
Bingo! Changing HPOP oil is a waste of time. Best thing for a PSD is a bypass filter. Easy to setup with parts from Napa and will keep oil clean. A 7.3 that has been well maintained will see 400-500k miles easy. I sold mine at 393k and five years later it is still going strong. Pull injectors every 200k and rebuild them. It's very easy to do. They have wearable parts and like anything else , they need refreshed every so often.
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What about a ford with a cummins swapped?A few pop up for sell here and there.
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Originally Posted by Trimmy
Look into a dmax, I have a buddy that just bought an 05 with 150k on it for $15000 out the door and its nice. We have them all over the place in Ohio for way less then 20 and I am talking loaded 06 LBZs.
wow awesome deal !!!! are we talking crewcab's with leather and 4x4 for that price??

I'd get rid of mine just to get the '06 lbz, but I'd want a straight transfer with little to no cash involved..

out here it seems they keep there value as you'll be hard pressed to find one under 20k, and if you do its been beat...

supply/demand and state in which you reside will play a big part on value..
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All DT series engines still use HPOP / HEUI systems, and yes it's only a qt, but if they are not saying to change it under warranty, then there is some kind of validity to it, has to be for them to even consider paying for it. 3 qts do not get left behind in a light truck 7.3, maybe, and maybe it's 3 qts in an 8 gallon system, but a 7.3 is 15 qts in an oil change and about 16.5 completely dry.. Now you are saying the oil "circulates, ever had the valve voers off of one running and see how much oil it uses when it spits it out of the injectors? Its droplets, its high pressure, not volume, the oil up there doesnt get circulated much at all. Which is why you see injector stiction, the tiny little valve in the injector get worn or dirty causing a missfire. Hey what do I know though... I only work on the crap day in and day out for the last 16 yrs of my life
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Originally Posted by mentalbreakdown00
Diesel Daze, I hate chevy front ends when it comes to working on them haha.. oh well, everyone has opinions, I am not exempt
I agree their front end is a joke, but otoh that's what makes the ride so nice so I guess its a trade off...
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Yep you are right, the oil in the hpop never moves, and that is why they have no need for a high volume LPOP to feed the HPOP because it would never suck the HPOP reservoir dry being that two oil pumps are used to feed injectors that drip oil at about 4000psi.
But what do I know, I just sit at home all day and watch **** on the computer
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I love my obs (old body style) powerstroke.
96. 181k miles.
I straight piped it with 4" got a banks big hoss stage 3 chip 85 hp 135 tq
And did the diy intake. Anlong with the bb mod I'm at about 380 hp and 700 tq

And I get 20 mpg out of a 6000 lb truck.
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Originally Posted by andrewmp6
What about a ford with a cummins swapped?A few pop up for sell here and there.
That would be a good truck if done right. One of the things I have mentioned before to people that say ford diesels are the best. How come people are putting cummins engines in ford trucks? How many dodge trucks do you see with swapped in powerstrokes?

Another interesting thing is the powerstorke is only considered a light duty diesel. Ford didnt even use them in the F650+ trucks but you could get the same cummins dodge used in the med duty ford trucks.
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Originally Posted by jnicewan

That would be a good truck if done right. One of the things I have mentioned before to people that say ford diesels are the best. How come people are putting cummins engines in ford trucks? How many dodge trucks do you see with swapped in powerstrokes?

Another interesting thing is the powerstorke is only considered a light duty diesel. Ford didnt even use them in the F650+ trucks but you could get the same cummins dodge used in the med duty ford trucks.
Because cummins have a fan boy club. Its just like wrangler owners. Each group thinks their **** don't stink. They think that a cummins is gods gift to man. So they don't even give the powerstroke a chance. They know that the dodge truck sucks. So they buy a ford and spend a bunch of $$$ to swap it. Then build the motor with another 3000 in parts.... then when my as they call powerjoke with $200 in upgrades smokes them either in a straight line or pulling a 40' 5th wheel up a hill I just sit back and lol


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