Fender cut with Original Flare replacement
#48
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yeah man that inner and outer fender thing messed me up bad but I didnt care too much because it will be covered up anyways. Im either gonna weld a piece of sheet metal over the gap or figure something else out. heres a write up of how its suppossed to be done for the rear fenders...
http://www.naxja.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1011630
Ill definitely have to work on the rear more but its a start for what I want.
http://www.naxja.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1011630
Ill definitely have to work on the rear more but its a start for what I want.
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Here is the promised write up
Ok so here is the promised write up for the FRONT fenders. Ill do an official one with the Rear and front combined when I neaten up my rear ones and do all that fun stuff.
Things you absolutely need:
1) stock Fender flares
2) something to cut your fenders (i.e. Nibbler, Snips, Sheetmetal scissors, etc) I personally used a 4" angle grinder with a cut off wheel.
3) Drill with Drill bits and screws
4) socket set
Things you could use but dont neccessarily need:
1) Sharpie (to mark your cuts)
2) grinding wheel to neaten up your cuts
3) washers (to fix mistakes ill talk about them later)
4) flat head screw driver
5) Dremel
6) dremel Drill press attachment
Ok first off you have to remove your stock fender flares. Its very simple. Take your socket set and remove the bolts that hold the flares on. Dont worry if they snap off like mine did (20 year old bolts tend to do that) you wont need them anyways. Take the metal plates off the fender flares. Then decide how much you want to cut. Take your stock flare and line it up where you would like it to go back on. You might have to do some modifications to your flare at this point because mine wrapped under my vehicle but since I moved them up it got in the way so I cut that part off. Take your sharpie and trace the edge of the flare where you want to cut. Start a little at a time. You can always cut more but unless you like replacing fenders dont cut too much at first. You can always eyeball your cut if you dont want sharpie on your jeep but it doesnt really matter because youll be cutting it off anyways. Next take your grinder with a cut off wheel (or cutting machine) and begin cutting. Try to cut relief cuts for the turns so it comes out smoother than just choppy lines. (you can fix them later with the grinding wheel but remember "work smarter not harder") after you acheive your desired cut you can roll with no flares but I put my stock flares back on. Also remember to use your grinder and smooth out your edges so if your tire ever does hit it, it wont slice right through it.
To put your stock flares back on, first take your dremel and drill press attachment (or drill press or just drill) and drill holes in your flares at your desired distance apart from eachother (but try to make it aestetically pleasing) I accidentally drilled too small of holes at first so I had to go back along with a drill and drill bigger holes. I drilled the holes large enough that the screw could go all the way through the outside part of the flare but left the small holes for the screw to catch on. like a countersink sort of. IF you drill all the way through your flare with the big drill bit its ok, just put a washer inbetween the 2 parts and your good to go. I do have pictures if you need them. Next hold your flare up where you want it to go and attach them back to your fenders with screws. I used self tapping screws with a flat head slot on them. If you cant get the screw all the way in use your flat head screw driver and screw them the rest of the way in.
Congrats you just trimmed your fenders and still have a slightly stock look to it. OR you just saved $500+ from not getting Bushwackers. If you need pictures or any further explanation just ask im always on here. Thanks, Zach
Things you absolutely need:
1) stock Fender flares
2) something to cut your fenders (i.e. Nibbler, Snips, Sheetmetal scissors, etc) I personally used a 4" angle grinder with a cut off wheel.
3) Drill with Drill bits and screws
4) socket set
Things you could use but dont neccessarily need:
1) Sharpie (to mark your cuts)
2) grinding wheel to neaten up your cuts
3) washers (to fix mistakes ill talk about them later)
4) flat head screw driver
5) Dremel
6) dremel Drill press attachment
Ok first off you have to remove your stock fender flares. Its very simple. Take your socket set and remove the bolts that hold the flares on. Dont worry if they snap off like mine did (20 year old bolts tend to do that) you wont need them anyways. Take the metal plates off the fender flares. Then decide how much you want to cut. Take your stock flare and line it up where you would like it to go back on. You might have to do some modifications to your flare at this point because mine wrapped under my vehicle but since I moved them up it got in the way so I cut that part off. Take your sharpie and trace the edge of the flare where you want to cut. Start a little at a time. You can always cut more but unless you like replacing fenders dont cut too much at first. You can always eyeball your cut if you dont want sharpie on your jeep but it doesnt really matter because youll be cutting it off anyways. Next take your grinder with a cut off wheel (or cutting machine) and begin cutting. Try to cut relief cuts for the turns so it comes out smoother than just choppy lines. (you can fix them later with the grinding wheel but remember "work smarter not harder") after you acheive your desired cut you can roll with no flares but I put my stock flares back on. Also remember to use your grinder and smooth out your edges so if your tire ever does hit it, it wont slice right through it.
To put your stock flares back on, first take your dremel and drill press attachment (or drill press or just drill) and drill holes in your flares at your desired distance apart from eachother (but try to make it aestetically pleasing) I accidentally drilled too small of holes at first so I had to go back along with a drill and drill bigger holes. I drilled the holes large enough that the screw could go all the way through the outside part of the flare but left the small holes for the screw to catch on. like a countersink sort of. IF you drill all the way through your flare with the big drill bit its ok, just put a washer inbetween the 2 parts and your good to go. I do have pictures if you need them. Next hold your flare up where you want it to go and attach them back to your fenders with screws. I used self tapping screws with a flat head slot on them. If you cant get the screw all the way in use your flat head screw driver and screw them the rest of the way in.
Congrats you just trimmed your fenders and still have a slightly stock look to it. OR you just saved $500+ from not getting Bushwackers. If you need pictures or any further explanation just ask im always on here. Thanks, Zach
Last edited by zman32006; 09-01-2010 at 11:41 AM. Reason: added information
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props dude
if i could give rep, i wood.
the only thing i'd add, use a round file to smooth out the edges, so you tires dont get cut. a grinder is overkill for the job, imho. and anyway, you cant let robots do all the work for you.
if you dont use washers, and drill the inner holes almost the size of the screw head then maybe, when you fenders get snaged, they'll just pop right off, and you fender will be, mostly, left undamaged, maybe, if your lucky.
you got more pics? why you holding out?
if i could give rep, i wood.
the only thing i'd add, use a round file to smooth out the edges, so you tires dont get cut. a grinder is overkill for the job, imho. and anyway, you cant let robots do all the work for you.
if you dont use washers, and drill the inner holes almost the size of the screw head then maybe, when you fenders get snaged, they'll just pop right off, and you fender will be, mostly, left undamaged, maybe, if your lucky.
you got more pics? why you holding out?
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yeah I was thinking of putting some kind of rubber gasket or something around the edge so if/when the tire does hit then itll be ok. haha ok ill post them tomorrow.
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well, now that pinch seam is ****ed. So your already weak unibody is even weaker... I'd suggest patching that up the right way with sheet metal and a welder.
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If you would have read this post you wouldn't have to suggest patching it up because he already stated that he was going to weld some sheet metal in place
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well, now that pinch seam is ****ed. So your already weak unibody is even weaker... I'd suggest patching that up the right way with sheet metal and a welder.[/QUOTE]
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hahaha its all good no worries but yeah I got the idea from a guy at this link http://www.naxja.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1011630
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Get another one man!! theyre so cheap to buy into and so much fun to work on. its become my obsession. Im only 19 an this is all I do beside college work and play guitar hahaha
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New Jersey is the Cali of the east. bunch of dumbass politicians if you ask me. I mean what the hell difference does it make if the whole tire is covered? worst thing thats gonna happen is a rooster tail of water and thats what windshield wipers are for. betchya they don't have a law about mud flaps(**** that actually matters)
Hhahaha actually they do have mud flap laws lol and they saw because they can more easily throw rocks towards other peoples' windshields