True forced induction hood scoop
#63
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From: Norfolk va
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Sadly my jeep has died to electrical issues so the hood scoop has been put on the back burner. Before it went kaput though I did test my mock up design and noticed a huge gain in throttle response.
#64
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From: Warrenton MO
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.7L I6
coming from someone who owns a cuda', which originated the shaker scoop, i think its a badass design. wish it resembled the original style but still stepping on that throttle and seein that scoop shake is cool.
and no it isnt "forced induction" but it dosent hurt and cools air better. when i put my snorkel on my jeep performed better.
bottom line, do what you like. i get made fun of for my exhaust and i dont care i think its BA.
and no it isnt "forced induction" but it dosent hurt and cools air better. when i put my snorkel on my jeep performed better.
bottom line, do what you like. i get made fun of for my exhaust and i dont care i think its BA.
#65
I think everyone is hung up on your thread title, I think you ment you were installing a funtioning scoop and some thought you were trying to actually force induct your air. I agree that every little bit helps. The less tunneling your air has to get through the better, especially when the motor alone is pulling it in. I noticed gains as well to throttle response and operating temp with my scoop.
Bottom line is its your rig and your way of learning and having fun after all isnt that why we enjoy our rigs? Hope to see the finished product soon!
Bottom line is its your rig and your way of learning and having fun after all isnt that why we enjoy our rigs? Hope to see the finished product soon!
#66
an idea popped in my head
so ive been thinking (dreaming) about ideas on how i could make my jeeps engine bay run efficiently as possible. ive been watching car shows and studying how the muscle cars from the past can be applied to our boxy toys we have now. and i stumbled across this. the 69-71 Pontiac GTO Judge.
this beauty actually came up with a working forced air induction system with its hood. and had a unique feature with that hood that ill discuss in a minute. so after studying it and looking at our lovely 4.0 engine i found quickly that this wouldnt work out so well, especially due to the fact that we dont have a carb. however i did pick up 2 specific points off the hood, 1 was the placement of the scoops and the direct location of the force induction hoses on the engine. the entry points of the scoops where located at a far enough location that it would take cool air from the sides of the vehicle and direct it to the carb. simple yet ingenious. the next part was my favorite. you see not only where the scoops placed in an ideal location but they also had a door to open and close the scoops for change in weather conditions such as rain or snow. so then i got to thinking about our engine
ive seen the many diffrent louvers and scoop ideas that we have installed in our own hoods and they seem perfect in every which way. however the most efficient way ive seen is when the hot air is blown out from the center of the hood with taurus fans. the reason why i think this is the most efficient spot is because i and many other jeepers have seen in the winter when they live around snow that the first point the hood melts at is in the dead center where the cylinder heads are. the point of me posting this under your hood scoop section is that maybe you should bring a forced induction right over(connected) to your air intake (idealy a CAI) and devlop an overall door mechanisim for the vents and scoop depending on the weather conditions ( mainly for the vents would be the easier part).
i know people have there snorkels connected to there intake system however thats alot of pvc the air has to go to to reach the intake plus thats a small diameter to pull alot of air through. just putting my 2 cents in
this beauty actually came up with a working forced air induction system with its hood. and had a unique feature with that hood that ill discuss in a minute. so after studying it and looking at our lovely 4.0 engine i found quickly that this wouldnt work out so well, especially due to the fact that we dont have a carb. however i did pick up 2 specific points off the hood, 1 was the placement of the scoops and the direct location of the force induction hoses on the engine. the entry points of the scoops where located at a far enough location that it would take cool air from the sides of the vehicle and direct it to the carb. simple yet ingenious. the next part was my favorite. you see not only where the scoops placed in an ideal location but they also had a door to open and close the scoops for change in weather conditions such as rain or snow. so then i got to thinking about our engine
ive seen the many diffrent louvers and scoop ideas that we have installed in our own hoods and they seem perfect in every which way. however the most efficient way ive seen is when the hot air is blown out from the center of the hood with taurus fans. the reason why i think this is the most efficient spot is because i and many other jeepers have seen in the winter when they live around snow that the first point the hood melts at is in the dead center where the cylinder heads are. the point of me posting this under your hood scoop section is that maybe you should bring a forced induction right over(connected) to your air intake (idealy a CAI) and devlop an overall door mechanisim for the vents and scoop depending on the weather conditions ( mainly for the vents would be the easier part).
i know people have there snorkels connected to there intake system however thats alot of pvc the air has to go to to reach the intake plus thats a small diameter to pull alot of air through. just putting my 2 cents in
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#68
Originally Posted by s14unimog
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#69
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From: Warrenton MO
Year: 2000
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look at the road runner scoop. its a better set up. when its closed you dont know there is one. and they dont try to pass it off as forced induction like pontiac always has. and the fastest possible route to the intake runners is always the best bet. directly above the intake is most desirable.
#70
Originally Posted by ol'DixieJeep
look at the road runner scoop. its a better set up. when its closed you dont know there is one. and they dont try to pass it off as forced induction like pontiac always has. and the fastest possible route to the intake runners is always the best bet. directly above the intake is most desirable.
Yet again I'm just putting an idea out their for all to think about and you don't have to bite my head off. Thanks
#71
If you don't like it becaue it's a gm idea on a Chrysler then I'm sorry but at least it's a better idea than those people placing Subaru scoops on them. So sorry for offending you I'll find a diffrent vehicle
#72
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From: Warrenton MO
Year: 2000
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whoa there bud... i wasnt trying to argue. i love pontiacs too man. but it isnt forced. forced is turbo charged and supercharged/pro charged/blown engines. look at modern mustangs, they take the headlight out to make the air box opening clear. helps by maybe 1/2 a tenth of a second at the track.
but it is ram air and is hepful. i like the ideas. i have two scoops on my hood but theyre for heat reduction.
but it is ram air and is hepful. i like the ideas. i have two scoops on my hood but theyre for heat reduction.
#73
Lol sorry for being hostle, just seems like did that post I gotten a face palm and sounded like you where all against the hood idea stuff. I'm still gonna draw up the scoop idea but I've been trying to find more scoops to blend with the jeep hood better so it can push cool air to intake. And blend with the heat vents better