True forced induction hood scoop
#77
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From: London Ontario Canada
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
coming from someone who owns a cuda', which originated the shaker scoop, i think its a badass design. wish it resembled the original style but still stepping on that throttle and seein that scoop shake is cool.
and no it isnt "forced induction" but it dosent hurt and cools air better. when i put my snorkel on my jeep performed better.
bottom line, do what you like. i get made fun of for my exhaust and i dont care i think its BA.
and no it isnt "forced induction" but it dosent hurt and cools air better. when i put my snorkel on my jeep performed better.
bottom line, do what you like. i get made fun of for my exhaust and i dont care i think its BA.
Every little bit helps.
#78
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From: Warrenton MO
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.7L I6
i didnt think sprints had true shaker scoops... thats cool. still think cudas coined the shaker term. with the cool decal on the inside of the hood lol
gotta put this decal on the inside of your hood if you get done with the shaker hood for your jeep. mopar makes em still.
gotta put this decal on the inside of your hood if you get done with the shaker hood for your jeep. mopar makes em still.
#79
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From: London Ontario Canada
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
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It did and it was truly rare. all documentation I can find on them has them around 50 produced and none known to left. Which is why I wish I'd never sold it. New owner eventually pulled engine and put in a SBC. He couldn't afford a real camaro.
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From: London Ontario Canada
Year: 2000
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#84
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From: Warrenton MO
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Model: Cherokee
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#85
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From: Pebble Beach, CA
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Sport
Scoop directions
If a scoop facing forward is open to the engine compartment is will create positive pressure within the engine compartment. Turning a scoop around or installing vents will allow the air entering through the grill to exit easier.
I ran these tests with a digital thermometer and saw a 20-30ºF drop when the scoop was facing backwards.
I ended installing louvers on the passengers side to allow the heated engine compartment air to escape.
On the drivers side, I built a box that seals to the underside of the hood. It is supported from the underside to the inner fender. It is piped with Spectre components and a 10" cone filter within the box. I creased the bottom of the box to slope to a 3/8" hole.
Above the filter, I have a removable baffle. Any water that enters through the scoop is directed around the filter & towards the sides of the box, where it can then drain out.
The valve cover breather tube is connected a fitting in the 3" Spectre pipe, between the box & the TB intake. I'm now getting 20-30ºF cooler underhood temperatures and my engine is getting cool air from the outside (without a butt ugly submarine periscope).
I installed a $20 EBay hood scoop directly above the air box. All totaled the Spectre parts ran about $100 & the sheet metal for the box another $30.
I have placed a second battery where my OEM air box was.
I ran these tests with a digital thermometer and saw a 20-30ºF drop when the scoop was facing backwards.
I ended installing louvers on the passengers side to allow the heated engine compartment air to escape.
On the drivers side, I built a box that seals to the underside of the hood. It is supported from the underside to the inner fender. It is piped with Spectre components and a 10" cone filter within the box. I creased the bottom of the box to slope to a 3/8" hole.
Above the filter, I have a removable baffle. Any water that enters through the scoop is directed around the filter & towards the sides of the box, where it can then drain out.
The valve cover breather tube is connected a fitting in the 3" Spectre pipe, between the box & the TB intake. I'm now getting 20-30ºF cooler underhood temperatures and my engine is getting cool air from the outside (without a butt ugly submarine periscope).
I installed a $20 EBay hood scoop directly above the air box. All totaled the Spectre parts ran about $100 & the sheet metal for the box another $30.
I have placed a second battery where my OEM air box was.
#86
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From: connecticut
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l
Originally Posted by HunterXJ
If a scoop facing forward is open to the engine compartment is will create positive pressure within the engine compartment. Turning a scoop around or installing vents will allow the air entering through the grill to exit easier.
I ran these tests with a digital thermometer and saw a 20-30ºF drop when the scoop was facing backwards.
I ended installing louvers on the passengers side to allow the heated engine compartment air to escape.
On the drivers side, I built a box that seals to the underside of the hood. It is supported from the underside to the inner fender. It is piped with Spectre components and a 10" cone filter within the box. I creased the bottom of the box to slope to a 3/8" hole.
Above the filter, I have a removable baffle. Any water that enters through the scoop is directed around the filter & towards the sides of the box, where it can then drain out.
The valve cover breather tube is connected a fitting in the 3" Spectre pipe, between the box & the TB intake. I'm now getting 20-30ºF cooler underhood temperatures and my engine is getting cool air from the outside (without a butt ugly submarine periscope).
I installed a $20 EBay hood scoop directly above the air box. All totaled the Spectre parts ran about $100 & the sheet metal for the box another $30.
I have placed a second battery where my OEM air box was.
I ran these tests with a digital thermometer and saw a 20-30ºF drop when the scoop was facing backwards.
I ended installing louvers on the passengers side to allow the heated engine compartment air to escape.
On the drivers side, I built a box that seals to the underside of the hood. It is supported from the underside to the inner fender. It is piped with Spectre components and a 10" cone filter within the box. I creased the bottom of the box to slope to a 3/8" hole.
Above the filter, I have a removable baffle. Any water that enters through the scoop is directed around the filter & towards the sides of the box, where it can then drain out.
The valve cover breather tube is connected a fitting in the 3" Spectre pipe, between the box & the TB intake. I'm now getting 20-30ºF cooler underhood temperatures and my engine is getting cool air from the outside (without a butt ugly submarine periscope).
I installed a $20 EBay hood scoop directly above the air box. All totaled the Spectre parts ran about $100 & the sheet metal for the box another $30.
I have placed a second battery where my OEM air box was.
#87
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From: Northern Ontario, Canada
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
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Engine: 4.0
^ that's called an air grabber.
but with the xj, you would likely want to make a temporary strip of bristle or something like a shop broom end. more so of a flexible strip placed across the hood to see where the airstream is at the most force. otherwise, you may be adding a hood scoop where there is absolutely no air stream.
if you want the best of forced air intake, i'd have to agree with a snorkel. the air is high above the hood, at roof level, where there is likely the most volume of air being forced over the vehicle.
but with the xj, you would likely want to make a temporary strip of bristle or something like a shop broom end. more so of a flexible strip placed across the hood to see where the airstream is at the most force. otherwise, you may be adding a hood scoop where there is absolutely no air stream.
if you want the best of forced air intake, i'd have to agree with a snorkel. the air is high above the hood, at roof level, where there is likely the most volume of air being forced over the vehicle.
#88
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From: Pebble Beach, CA
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Sport
Scoop placement
I agree that the optimum placement of the scoop should be determined by the aerodynamics of the airflow over the surface of the hood.
However, the under hood support ribs and space within the engine compartment ultimately dictate where stuff resides. To get really scientific, you'd just raise the height of the scoop until it intersected the airflow (that's why they sell race car scoops in various heights and opening configurations).
I don't drive 200+ mph, so the slow speeds of the airflow most definitely make it into the low profile scoop. It's all about grabbing fresh, cool air for the intake and venting the under hood heat.
However, the under hood support ribs and space within the engine compartment ultimately dictate where stuff resides. To get really scientific, you'd just raise the height of the scoop until it intersected the airflow (that's why they sell race car scoops in various heights and opening configurations).
I don't drive 200+ mph, so the slow speeds of the airflow most definitely make it into the low profile scoop. It's all about grabbing fresh, cool air for the intake and venting the under hood heat.
#89
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From: albany, new york
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Engine: i6
#90
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From: Pebble Beach, CA
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Sport
I'd also be concerned about the uncontrolled water spray getting into the ignition system, spark plug wires, alternator, fuse block, etc. Those components are not designed to be saturated with water.