Fabrication & builders section. All fabrication posts go here.
XJ/MJ/ZJ/WJ Only projects go here. Questions belong in modified tech.

unibody repair

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-29-2013 | 07:01 PM
  #16  
NewJerseyXJ609's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,522
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: l6 HO
Default

Thats such a bummer dude.. Atleast you made it out ok. That JCR bumper really took a beating!
Old 04-29-2013 | 08:59 PM
  #17  
elkwagn's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 262
Likes: 1
From: Montana
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Trying to load the pics I found and it won't let me. PM me your email and I will send them that way. I removed the fenders, sway bar, grill and rad. support, and took it to the frame shop to get everything "right". I then removed the bent inner fenders using a spot weld cutter, and then I cut off the frame ends. I inserted square tube into the exposed open end of the "frame", and welded it in using the holes I had previously drilled into the frame. I then slid some donor frame ends over the tube and welded them in place the same way and also all the way around where they butted together. I also replaced the factory brace between the front frame ends using the donor rig again, cut the spot welds and then welded it in place on the wrecked rig. Take lots of measurements to make sure its right when you weld it back together. I plated the outside on both sides with 3/16, and I also built a steering box brace just to make sure everything was solid. Had it aligned and abused it for years hunting and wheeling without issue, and drove it on the highway plenty. Everyone gives me crap about having dead cherokees around, but having spare parts like these was priceless to me, plus having one to reference that wasnt wrecked helped a lot also
Old 04-29-2013 | 11:53 PM
  #18  
blankdeluxe's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
From: Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Year: 88-ish
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Why dont you just go pick up another jeep and swap your parts? The piece of mind would be worth it in my book. I can understand wanting to fix something yourself and make it better then it was but thats a lot of front end damage and a little unibody crack somewhere you might have missed could turn into a nightmare or worse down the road.
Old 04-30-2013 | 12:52 AM
  #19  
Action Fab's Avatar
Cherokee Forum Vendor
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Hot Springs, AR.
Model: Cherokee
Default

No way would I spend the time on an 89 renix cherokee with 267k miles. Maybe if it were a 91 up and you were just going to use it as a trail rig. But it will never be right as a dd.
Old 04-30-2013 | 05:58 AM
  #20  
my89xj's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 10,447
Likes: 0
From: Frederick, MD
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I appreciate your concern, but this cherokee means to much to me, and I'm not about to give up on it just yet.
Old 04-30-2013 | 08:22 PM
  #21  
Northwoods Snowman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 976
Likes: 5
From: Cloquet, MN
Year: 2000 Ltd.
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Default

Originally Posted by Action Fab
No way would I spend the time on an 89 renix cherokee with 267k miles. Maybe if it were a 91 up and you were just going to use it as a trail rig. But it will never be right as a dd.
Makes a good point. How much is your time worth? You're going to have a LOT of time and probably a fair bit more money involved for a Jeeps that is worth, well, not much. Hate to be a downer.
Old 04-30-2013 | 08:54 PM
  #22  
my89xj's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 10,447
Likes: 0
From: Frederick, MD
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

More people tell me it can't be done, the more inspired I am.
Old 05-01-2013 | 07:46 AM
  #23  
PingPong's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 0
Year: 87
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

THis is very doable. PPL are making it harder then it needs to be as well.

Find an unwrecked rig to get measurements off of
buy some 2x4x.25 and some 3/16 or 1/4 plate in 4" width
cut inner fender structure from the frame at the desired repair area.
Cut the 2x4 to length and mock up using good welding/fb techniques. Plate the inner top and bottom of the repairs. Reweld inner fender structure to the 2x4.
If you feel it is needed you can always add some tubing from the front of the new frame rails back to the firewall.

The only tricky thing I see is making sure the steering box is in the same relative location in the frame rail, and that isnt but so hard in my opinion.
Old 05-01-2013 | 09:59 AM
  #24  
my89xj's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 10,447
Likes: 0
From: Frederick, MD
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by PingPong
THis is very doable. PPL are making it harder then it needs to be as well.

Find an unwrecked rig to get measurements off of
buy some 2x4x.25 and some 3/16 or 1/4 plate in 4" width
cut inner fender structure from the frame at the desired repair area.
Cut the 2x4 to length and mock up using good welding/fb techniques. Plate the inner top and bottom of the repairs. Reweld inner fender structure to the 2x4.
If you feel it is needed you can always add some tubing from the front of the new frame rails back to the firewall.

The only tricky thing I see is making sure the steering box is in the same relative location in the frame rail, and that isnt but so hard in my opinion.
So your saying just to use tube?
Old 05-01-2013 | 03:33 PM
  #25  
PingPong's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 0
Year: 87
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

That is what I would do.. Why put mutiple layers of sheetmetal back. The front frame area is actually 2 boxes... ANd would be a true pita to weld right.. IN my opinion. It would be a lot of butt welds on galvanized.. and then you wouldstil have to plate it.

Cut it off cap it.. weld 2x4x.25 to it.. plate all sides makein sure you keep it square and true. This is going to be your hardest part BTW.
Old 05-01-2013 | 07:21 PM
  #26  
Northwoods Snowman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 976
Likes: 5
From: Cloquet, MN
Year: 2000 Ltd.
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Default

Originally Posted by my89xj
More people tell me it can't be done, the more inspired I am.
No one is saying it can't be done! The question is is it worth it on a very old, high mileage vehicle where a better base vehicle could be had rather cheaply and your mods transferred over.
Old 05-01-2013 | 08:35 PM
  #27  
my89xj's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 10,447
Likes: 0
From: Frederick, MD
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by PingPong
That is what I would do.. Why put mutiple layers of sheetmetal back. The front frame area is actually 2 boxes... ANd would be a true pita to weld right.. IN my opinion. It would be a lot of butt welds on galvanized.. and then you wouldstil have to plate it.

Cut it off cap it.. weld 2x4x.25 to it.. plate all sides makein sure you keep it square and true. This is going to be your hardest part BTW.
Further up, it turns to 2x5
Old 05-01-2013 | 11:16 PM
  #28  
PingPong's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 0
Year: 87
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by my89xj
Further up, it turns to 2x5
The size tube you need depends on how far back you have to repair. On my truggy I am using 2x4x.25 as frame rails on the front and for my rear frame.


As for what is cheaper to do.. You can fix this rig for under 200 in material and about 12 hrs worth of work depending on how fast you work.
Old 05-13-2013 | 09:52 PM
  #29  
my89xj's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 10,447
Likes: 0
From: Frederick, MD
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Alright everyone here is the current plan, since I've made a deal with a local shop.

Use heat on driver side to bend it back the little that it needs. Use my old JCR bumper reinforcement plates as stiffeners and weld the onto the outside area.

Passenger side is pretty mangled and could go one of both ways.

1. After heat is applied form it back together and weld on JCR reinforcement and plate the inside as well.

2. Cut off damaged section, but still weld JCR reinforcement on and use it as a template for the replacement piece of tube.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
HappyTrails
Cherokee Chat
26
12-23-2021 06:27 PM
DynoGuy
Jeep Builds
52
04-26-2016 04:55 AM
metalwonzero
KL Cherokee Tech
2
09-30-2015 01:45 AM
DynoGuy
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
7
09-27-2015 09:48 PM
Zerocyde
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
0
09-27-2015 02:49 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 


Quick Reply: unibody repair



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:35 AM.