Welding thread!!!!
02-14-2017, 07:44 PM
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I restored British sports cars for about 25 years and used hammer welding to piece together a lot of exterior sheet metal, fenders mostly. If you can take the fender off and get at both sides it is a big help.
With hammer welding you use no filler rod. You basically fuse the panels together. This is especially important if you have to run the panels through an English wheel. If you have ANY filler rod it will destroy the anvils. You simply DON'T do it.
Here are a few pics of a hammer weld. The seam is along the crown and no filler rod was used, just my torch with a #1 tip and a small neutral flame. I body filed the top side but you can see the seam on the bottom side.
02-14-2017, 08:20 PM
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My hat it off to you brother! I have watched and watched and Watched some Old Masters do this but I never had any good luck with it.
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What you need is a small neutral flame and a steady hand. Once you get the knack it it's surprising how fast you can move.
I restored British sports cars for about 25 years and used hammer welding to piece together a lot of exterior sheet metal, fenders mostly. If you can take the fender off and get at both sides it is a big help.
With hammer welding you use no filler rod. You basically fuse the panels together. This is especially important if you have to run the panels through an English wheel. If you have ANY filler rod it will destroy the anvils. You simply DON'T do it.
Here are a few pics of a hammer weld. The seam is along the crown and no filler rod was used, just my torch with a #1 tip and a small neutral flame. I body filed the top side but you can see the seam on the bottom side.
I restored British sports cars for about 25 years and used hammer welding to piece together a lot of exterior sheet metal, fenders mostly. If you can take the fender off and get at both sides it is a big help.
With hammer welding you use no filler rod. You basically fuse the panels together. This is especially important if you have to run the panels through an English wheel. If you have ANY filler rod it will destroy the anvils. You simply DON'T do it.
Here are a few pics of a hammer weld. The seam is along the crown and no filler rod was used, just my torch with a #1 tip and a small neutral flame. I body filed the top side but you can see the seam on the bottom side.
02-14-2017, 08:57 PM
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First time posting in this thread and I did read the sticky so hopfully this wont get deleted.
I have a Handy Mig 101 and I am trying to weld 1/8" steel for my bumper kit. I do not think this welder has enough amps to weld this thick of metal.
What are some decent Mig welders that I can keep for awhile that wont break my budget? I think $500 is probably my limit. 220v is optional as I dont have it currently at my house.
I have a Handy Mig 101 and I am trying to weld 1/8" steel for my bumper kit. I do not think this welder has enough amps to weld this thick of metal.
What are some decent Mig welders that I can keep for awhile that wont break my budget? I think $500 is probably my limit. 220v is optional as I dont have it currently at my house.
02-14-2017, 10:20 PM
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Thanks. An "old master" panel beater taught me hammer welding in the early '80s and I've always appreciated the time he spent with me.
02-14-2017, 10:46 PM
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First time posting in this thread and I did read the sticky so hopfully this wont get deleted.
I have a Handy Mig 101 and I am trying to weld 1/8" steel for my bumper kit. I do not think this welder has enough amps to weld this thick of metal.
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What are some decent Mig welders that I can keep for awhile that wont break my budget? I think $500 is probably my limit. 220v is optional as I dont have it currently at my house.
I have a Handy Mig 101 and I am trying to weld 1/8" steel for my bumper kit. I do not think this welder has enough amps to weld this thick of metal.
Attachment 299068
What are some decent Mig welders that I can keep for awhile that wont break my budget? I think $500 is probably my limit. 220v is optional as I dont have it currently at my house.
hobart handler 140(machine i have)
miller 211(i want one of these, also dual voltage)
02-14-2017, 11:33 PM
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02-15-2017, 12:57 AM
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Yeah the hobart 140 was actually the welder that keeps popping up due to price and ratings. I have a local welding supply that sells some refurbished welders with their own warranty so I may check them out as well.
02-15-2017, 07:52 AM
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Just yesterday, I scored this:
We have a guy who comes by every once in a while that repairs welders...he's serviced almost every machine in our shop at work. Knows his stuff, he's old school...guy can find any part for any machine. Long story short, he asked if anyone needed anything...so I asked him if he had a good tombstone...he said yeah I'll send you some pics...he's doing a complete refurb on it, cleaning it up as much as possible, and gonna warranty it for 2 years. $200. DONE, haha
02-15-2017, 09:56 AM
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What you need is a small neutral flame and a steady hand. Once you get the knack it it's surprising how fast you can move.
I restored British sports cars for about 25 years and used hammer welding to piece together a lot of exterior sheet metal, fenders mostly. If you can take the fender off and get at both sides it is a big help.
With hammer welding you use no filler rod. You basically fuse the panels together. This is especially important if you have to run the panels through an English wheel. If you have ANY filler rod it will destroy the anvils. You simply DON'T do it.
Here are a few pics of a hammer weld. The seam is along the crown and no filler rod was used, just my torch with a #1 tip and a small neutral flame. I body filed the top side but you can see the seam on the bottom side.
I restored British sports cars for about 25 years and used hammer welding to piece together a lot of exterior sheet metal, fenders mostly. If you can take the fender off and get at both sides it is a big help.
With hammer welding you use no filler rod. You basically fuse the panels together. This is especially important if you have to run the panels through an English wheel. If you have ANY filler rod it will destroy the anvils. You simply DON'T do it.
Here are a few pics of a hammer weld. The seam is along the crown and no filler rod was used, just my torch with a #1 tip and a small neutral flame. I body filed the top side but you can see the seam on the bottom side.
Definitely do this...you may find a better welder for the same price...
Just yesterday, I scored this:
Attachment 299083
Attachment 299084
Attachment 299085
We have a guy who comes by every once in a while that repairs welders...he's serviced almost every machine in our shop at work. Knows his stuff, he's old school...guy can find any part for any machine. Long story short, he asked if anyone needed anything...so I asked him if he had a good tombstone...he said yeah I'll send you some pics...he's doing a complete refurb on it, cleaning it up as much as possible, and gonna warranty it for 2 years. $200. DONE, haha
Just yesterday, I scored this:
Attachment 299083
Attachment 299084
Attachment 299085
We have a guy who comes by every once in a while that repairs welders...he's serviced almost every machine in our shop at work. Knows his stuff, he's old school...guy can find any part for any machine. Long story short, he asked if anyone needed anything...so I asked him if he had a good tombstone...he said yeah I'll send you some pics...he's doing a complete refurb on it, cleaning it up as much as possible, and gonna warranty it for 2 years. $200. DONE, haha
02-15-2017, 01:48 PM
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Definitely do this...you may find a better welder for the same price...
Just yesterday, I scored this:
We have a guy who comes by every once in a while that repairs welders...he's serviced almost every machine in our shop at work. Long story short, he asked if anyone needed anything...so I asked him if he had a good tombstone...he said yeah I'll send you some pics...he's doing a complete refurb on it, cleaning it up as much as possible, and gonna warranty it for 2 years. $200. DONE, haha
Just yesterday, I scored this:
We have a guy who comes by every once in a while that repairs welders...he's serviced almost every machine in our shop at work. Long story short, he asked if anyone needed anything...so I asked him if he had a good tombstone...he said yeah I'll send you some pics...he's doing a complete refurb on it, cleaning it up as much as possible, and gonna warranty it for 2 years. $200. DONE, haha
https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/for/5987627395.html
Anyways I founds this duel input Lincoln for $275 and I shot him an email.
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/5950934573.html
02-15-2017, 02:35 PM
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So I just found that exact welder here on my craigslist for $100
https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/for/5987627395.html
Anyways I founds this duel input Lincoln for $275 and I shot him an email.
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/5950934573.html
https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/for/5987627395.html
Anyways I founds this duel input Lincoln for $275 and I shot him an email.
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/5950934573.html
Good luck on your find!
02-15-2017, 03:58 PM
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Definitely do this...you may find a better welder for the same price...
Just yesterday, I scored this:
Attachment 299083
Attachment 299084
Attachment 299085
We have a guy who comes by every once in a while that repairs welders...he's serviced almost every machine in our shop at work. Knows his stuff, he's old school...guy can find any part for any machine. Long story short, he asked if anyone needed anything...so I asked him if he had a good tombstone...he said yeah I'll send you some pics...he's doing a complete refurb on it, cleaning it up as much as possible, and gonna warranty it for 2 years. $200. DONE, haha
Just yesterday, I scored this:
Attachment 299083
Attachment 299084
Attachment 299085
We have a guy who comes by every once in a while that repairs welders...he's serviced almost every machine in our shop at work. Knows his stuff, he's old school...guy can find any part for any machine. Long story short, he asked if anyone needed anything...so I asked him if he had a good tombstone...he said yeah I'll send you some pics...he's doing a complete refurb on it, cleaning it up as much as possible, and gonna warranty it for 2 years. $200. DONE, haha
02-15-2017, 11:08 PM
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How sweet would one of these welders be for the trail?? Stick and tig, (up to 140amps) battery powered welder. I want one.... if only they weren't 3 grand.
http://www.weldingoutfitter.com/prod...d-stick-welder
Do you want to have the newest stick welding technology? Fronius has created a new battery operated stick welder called the AccuPocket. The AccuPocket is great for those hard to reach areas in not so friendly terrains. This AccuPocket comes with the ActiveCharger. The ActiveCharger can charge the AccuPocket's battery to 90% capacity in just 30 minutes. Watch the informative video below to find out more
A High-performing, rechargeable lithium-ion battery powers this lightweight welder. Fully charged it has sufficient power to weld up to eight 1/8 inch diameter electrodes or eighteen 3/32 inch electrodes. During welding, the battery is able to momentarily deliver higher-than-average short- circuit currents to prevent electrode sticking. Additionally, AccuBoost electronics provide high welding voltage at high power, preventing the arc from breaking regardless of the battery’s charge status. All of the main parameters can be steplessly adjusted with a single digital control ****.
This welding system includes an ActiveCharger that is specially tailored to the requirements of the AccuPocket and is based on Fronius’ proven Active Inverter Technology. This technology, along with built-in battery management functions, will detect the state of the battery and optimally adapt the charging characteristic. Not only does it recharge the battery when not in use, the system can be used in hybrid mode to continue welding if the battery runs low. In hybrid mode, the energy is used to ensure a constant arc during run-times and during off-times it recharges the battery. At all times the full welding mode amperage is available, even when connected to a 110 outlet or when hooked to a small generator.
A High-performing, rechargeable lithium-ion battery powers this lightweight welder. Fully charged it has sufficient power to weld up to eight 1/8 inch diameter electrodes or eighteen 3/32 inch electrodes. During welding, the battery is able to momentarily deliver higher-than-average short- circuit currents to prevent electrode sticking. Additionally, AccuBoost electronics provide high welding voltage at high power, preventing the arc from breaking regardless of the battery’s charge status. All of the main parameters can be steplessly adjusted with a single digital control ****.
This welding system includes an ActiveCharger that is specially tailored to the requirements of the AccuPocket and is based on Fronius’ proven Active Inverter Technology. This technology, along with built-in battery management functions, will detect the state of the battery and optimally adapt the charging characteristic. Not only does it recharge the battery when not in use, the system can be used in hybrid mode to continue welding if the battery runs low. In hybrid mode, the energy is used to ensure a constant arc during run-times and during off-times it recharges the battery. At all times the full welding mode amperage is available, even when connected to a 110 outlet or when hooked to a small generator.
02-15-2017, 11:25 PM
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...or you could do this at half that cost...
http://premierpowerwelder.com/shop/w...-power-welder/
Also lots of DIY options out there...
http://premierpowerwelder.com/shop/w...-power-welder/
Also lots of DIY options out there...