2.5 ton
#91
I enjoy all this bickering about rockwells! But in all seriousness they are not needed unless you plan on running 44"+ tires! They would be awesome if done right just for the shock and ahh factor! But hell if you wanna do that I got some 10 tons if you wanna do that! Haha
I'll take those 10 tons, you can ship them to me or I'll just come get them!!! Clark's, or? Post some pix, and more info, I've been looking for some planetary axles......
#92
What the problem is here, is it came from Big Gay Truck Land.
Ive never understood it, unless you're trying to keep up with Coleworx, or maybe the Great Dane Bronco over on Pirate then have at it.
Ive ran across a few sets of 2.5 ton running gears over the years, around here you can buy a set of them about as cheap as a D60 front. But ive never even pondered on buying a set for anything. Its pointless and wayy overkill in my opinion.
#93
First off, thanx for the new sig, I like that!
It's 14" travel fox air shox. I will eventually be going to coil overs, but couldn't afford them at the time. I just happen to have the air shox laying around.
As for the rest of the rock talk: the 36" tire thing was a bad idea, way to small. Rocks work best between 42 and 54ish. 60's can be done, but only narrow mud tires. Stick a big fat 60 on there and I guarantee you will break shafts. Yes there heavy, yes there wide, and yes there over kill for most Jeeps. On the other hand, when built correctly, and under the proper rig they work great. Do you NEED them, probably not, can you use them, yes. I personally like a heavier rig, and I like to have the weight down low and unsprung. Thus giving me a reason to use rocks. I like to sit back and laugh at the tiny light little rigs trying over and over to power there way over a slick rock face. It's funny to me because I just idled over the same face in my over built, "way to heavy" rig. Weight = traction. Im not a muder, and I never have been. Candy and I stay far far away from the stuff. I hate washing mud out of places I can't even get my hand into, it sucks! I'll stick to the rocks, and call it good. That's why I live in CO, not down south where there is no mountain to climb.
Hey bajacrawler, nice to see you using my brackets from BTF, how are they working out for you? Nice buggy BTW.
When candy is done she might as well be a buggy, but I don't care. I want a Jeep, and that's the way she'll stay. I will be building a frame, boat sides, and a massive skid plate. It will be quite a while before she's anywhere near done, but once I have all the parts..... I won't be using rocks under her, but I do have a surprise in store. Ever seen a full float 9"?
It's 14" travel fox air shox. I will eventually be going to coil overs, but couldn't afford them at the time. I just happen to have the air shox laying around.
As for the rest of the rock talk: the 36" tire thing was a bad idea, way to small. Rocks work best between 42 and 54ish. 60's can be done, but only narrow mud tires. Stick a big fat 60 on there and I guarantee you will break shafts. Yes there heavy, yes there wide, and yes there over kill for most Jeeps. On the other hand, when built correctly, and under the proper rig they work great. Do you NEED them, probably not, can you use them, yes. I personally like a heavier rig, and I like to have the weight down low and unsprung. Thus giving me a reason to use rocks. I like to sit back and laugh at the tiny light little rigs trying over and over to power there way over a slick rock face. It's funny to me because I just idled over the same face in my over built, "way to heavy" rig. Weight = traction. Im not a muder, and I never have been. Candy and I stay far far away from the stuff. I hate washing mud out of places I can't even get my hand into, it sucks! I'll stick to the rocks, and call it good. That's why I live in CO, not down south where there is no mountain to climb.
Hey bajacrawler, nice to see you using my brackets from BTF, how are they working out for you? Nice buggy BTW.
When candy is done she might as well be a buggy, but I don't care. I want a Jeep, and that's the way she'll stay. I will be building a frame, boat sides, and a massive skid plate. It will be quite a while before she's anywhere near done, but once I have all the parts..... I won't be using rocks under her, but I do have a surprise in store. Ever seen a full float 9"?
#94
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From: Browns Valley/Grass Valley, CA
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 98 4.0 swap
that sounds like some good plans. thats also what i thought 38's would be like. my friend has a 2dr lifted 10" and on 38's but its got some major work done to it.
#95
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From: Browns Valley/Grass Valley, CA
Year: 1994
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Hey bajacrawler, nice to see you using my brackets from BTF, how are they working out for you? Nice buggy BTW.
the 4link brackets worked like a charm we had some trouble with the shock tabs on the front dunno if they were from btf or home made but they folded so we boxed them and viola no more prob. that was the nevada county 49er R.O.P. auto shop build that was done a couple years ago now. Joe Silva was the instructor.
the 4link brackets worked like a charm we had some trouble with the shock tabs on the front dunno if they were from btf or home made but they folded so we boxed them and viola no more prob. that was the nevada county 49er R.O.P. auto shop build that was done a couple years ago now. Joe Silva was the instructor.
#96
I was the original designer of that bracket, BTF cut some for me, and now they sell them. They changed them a bit, but it's still technically my design. If you look in the center the holes read "BTF" just like everything else they make. A lot of times I wish I could get things with out there logo in it. I did a job a few years ago on a CJ7, and used there full width kit. It had an integrated front winch bumper, and there logo was cut in it. I had to put a plate inside it, and weld the letters full and grind it down so it was smooth. It was a PITA!
The bracket was designed to bend, it bends so you don't break the shock. It's easier, and cheaper to replace the bracket then a coil over, or air shock. I do things that way all the time, I can't afford to be breaking coil overs
The bracket was designed to bend, it bends so you don't break the shock. It's easier, and cheaper to replace the bracket then a coil over, or air shock. I do things that way all the time, I can't afford to be breaking coil overs
#97
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From: Browns Valley/Grass Valley, CA
Year: 1994
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I dont disagree shock tabs were easy and free to fix but they almost folded off the axle and we would have had some annoying trail fixing to do. no front suspension would have sucked bad. but that was only prob we had.
#98
The rear is a Eaton and the front is made by
Rockwell. 4.56's
I was gonna put them under my old dodge
but I just don't have the time.
#101
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Year: 97
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#104
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From: Browns Valley/Grass Valley, CA
Year: 1994
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#105
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Year: 1994
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Yeah get rid of the spring packs. My friends dad has a 4x4 water truck. its our tow rig. doesn't matter what you got stuck in. probably pull a truck out of cement with that thing full. its a beast.