EagleXJ

Oh sure. These newer Grand Cherokees are great for city cruising and nice on snowy roads, but their not the off-road vehicle that they used to be; or that some people still think them to be. It's just kind of sad to see what was a perfectly good off-road rig get turned into this street bound cross over.

Cherokeekid4x4

The original Cherokee was a street bound SUV? What did you expect the new Cherokees to look like? Someone please answer this. If it is just so horrible what would you like to see in the new Cherokee? The original Cherokee was BUILT into an offroad rig by its owner. No one ever bought an xj off the line with 31's and 3 inc h lift kits. The only off the line built offroad jeep they made was the rubicon. The thing that makes jeeps jeeps are the things you do to it after you get it! I'm sure there will be plenty of stuff to build up the new Cherokee. And if you care so much about the independent suspension. Drop a dynatrac pro rock 60 in there and call it good.

emptypockets

I'm not sure how old you are and won't speculate. However, when I was growing up the most we had was Atari and eventually nes. There was no Internet and social media. People used their jeeps to get to cabins, ski lodges, camp sites, and yes, urban crawling. There was more exploring out of the way places by vehicle and road trips than most people do today.

Jeep is supposed to be rugged. It won battles and was a work horse in civilian use age. Jeep isn't drop your kids off at soccer and head to Starbucks with your gal pals. Growing up, jeep owners were the adventurous, outdoorsy, free spirited people. Jeep stood for something, not some watered down wishy washy clone of crap. When the cherokee came out it stood alone in the SUV segment, now it's another ugly face among other ugly faces. Jeep means nothing anymore.

XJriot

100% agree. Oh how times have changed.

EagleXJ

Preach it bother!

NewJerseyXJ609

Right, back then you bought a jeep because that's the type of vehicle you needed for your day to day needs. These new jeeps have no advantage over some other crossover/suv. They are all all wheel drive and independent front and rear suspension now. As much as they want to make people believe that these new jeeps are off road vehicles or "trail rated".... You can get a Honda civic trail rated, doesn't mean it was any good.

What I expected from jeep if they ever did bring the cherokee back would be atleast keep it to its roots alittle bit. You would never look at the new cherokee and go oh look at that they brought back the old xj!

Take the challenger for example. They brought back an old legend and you can look right at it and know that it's a challenger. Similar body lines but tastefully modernized

Cherokeekid4x4

Ill always love jeeps. Times have changed, so has the style. So has technology. If you hate jeep so much buy a range rover? Lol your eitheir a jeep guy or not

emptypockets

I can love Jeeps and not agree with the direction Fiat has taken it. They will ride the name until it means nothing. The further dilution of the brand will be the eventual death of Jeep. Technology doesn't always mean something is better and in my opinion, cars today are crap. They're ugly, over engineered, and disposable. No one will care about the 2014 Cherokee in 2034. Someone will still care about an XJ though. Either way, you have nothing left to say as evident by your reply.

XJriot

That's the dumbest thing I've read today.

XJriot

Cars today are crap but it is what keeps dealers in business. The more unnecessary bull crap they throw on a car then the harder it is for the average Joe to actually fix it. All the bells and whistles on today's vehicles and they'll still never run past 200k miles without needing rebuilds. That goes not just for vehicles though but for just about everything built these days. Cheap crap.

I guess it is a good business model though. People need cars. The longer someone keeps a car, the less money the banks, dealers and auto makers get. Let a vehicle last just until the loan is up then all the real expensive maintenance starts and most people just end up trading in. Rinse and repeat.

Cherokeekid4x4

Oh sorry..

Cherokeekid4x4

Um fiat only owns a little of jeep.. At least that's what I've read and heard. You guys keep blaming fiat. They obviously aren't doing to bad. I never even heard of them until I saw an ad for the 500. Clearly they climbed back up to the top pretty fast (I think there an old company?) jeeps sales are actually going back up so you can say fiat is taking it downhill all you want, it's not true. Your just upset you won't have anything to work on in the future. And people care about a lot of old cars, even if they were junk. Look hard enough and you'll find someone who is the biggest fan of a pinto. Cars today aren't crap. I've never owned a new vehicle but my grandparents have some pretty nice ones that run just fine. You may not be able to turn the wrenches yourself. But that doesn't make it crap. And as for the trading in part. Ya that's usually what people like to do, have a car for a couple years. Trade it in for a new car and that old car is sold for a used car. Still in good shape. They get great mpg, ride smooth, most are reliable. They may be more expensive...well no ones making you buy one. My dads 2004 f250 that he bought used still has a warranty and it runs great and whenever something does break. (Which I think it's been in the shop twice) it's been covered. New vehicles are not that bad. I wish my jeep had a warranty still. You know how much money I'd have? You guys are shallow, it's not all about looks you know.. Lol the Prius is ugly but I'd drive one just to get 40 mpg

XJriot

You've never owned a new car yet you're an expert on them. Gotcha.

So you really think most people want to trade in their car for a new one and get stuck with another car payment? Do you think people enjoy having a monthly car payment their entire life? Most people would rather have a reliable car that is paid off and not have to pay interest to a bank. See...when you don't live with your parents and actually have bills and a family to take care of, a car payment is usually the last thing someone wants to continuously renew every few years. That is where the reliability comes in. I can tell you my 1995 Jeep rides smoother than my 2013 sedan and I enjoy driving my jeep a hell of a lot more than the sedan even with all the bells and whistles that it has.

XJriot

As for who owns Jeep. Chrysler owns Jeep. But Fiat owns a majority stake (over 60%) of Chrysler. So yes...Fiat is controlling the future of the Jeep brand.

Cherokeekid4x4

I've been around them and if that's the case, why do so many people have new cars? O.o I see more new cars then old and I live in a shady Midwestern town. I enjoy my jeep too. Not bashing older vehicles. Just saying that new cars aren't killing anybody. Clearly. At least they have airbags haha. And ya I live at my dads? I'm 17 where you want me to go? Lol. My jeeps not smooth though. RC is stiff.. Anyways I get why people don't like making car payments but most people can make those payments.. Not a lot of people out there have their vehicles paid off. (Well around here) and I may not have "adult" bills but I still have to pay for gas, insurance, jeep stuff and have to pay the rest of the jeep off. So I know a little about monthly payments.