GreaseMonkey17

00t444e

I don't have one currently but if I ever do an SYE it will be the hack and tap, several people run it with no problems, and as cheap as it is I see no good reason not to use a hack and tap if you need an SYE. A regular SYE does come with a bigger output shaft but the stock output shaft holds up just fine for 99% of what most people do with it.

GreaseMonkey17

unidentifiedbomb

I would just be careful, a lot of people break bits or taps doing it. I got lucky and my buddy sold me his rebuilt 242 with an already barely used Tom Woods SYE installed. He went to an atlas :drool:

GreaseMonkey17

Morat

Of course, with a 242 you don't actually have to take it out of 4WD. I only go into 2WD to check it still works.
But yeah, 231s have all the aftermarket.

Martlor13

You run 4wd even when you dont need it? I hate awd vehicles, i dont think i would like my jeep to essentially be an awd type haha

00t444e

Same here, no all wheel drives for me.

Morat

Funny isn't it.
The feeling "over here" was against vehicles that ran in 2WD because Land Rover Defenders are full time 4WD with a locking centre diff and they're the most common offroader. I'm pretty sure that's why all XJs here have a 242 so they can be full time 4WD like a "Proper" off roader.

I can see why you wouldn't want to be driving something with front wheel drive assisted by rear wheel drive through the traction control, I've only ever found those to feel weird - but that's not what a 242 is doing. It's permanent 4WD which means my XJ behaves really well under power on wet corners and pulling out of junctions. I'd guess that's not something you need much in New Mexico

Anyway. I'm not saying you're wrong - I just find it interesting that the attitudes to the same tech are so different.

00t444e

Awd takes the fun out of it, you can't do a burn out in an awd, and is uses more fuel. Also I absolutely hate any traction control, the only traction control I need is my right foot.

Martlor13

You'd be wrong lol....new mexico isnt just desert like a lot of people seem to think. I live in the northern part. 5500 or so feet above sea level with awesome mointains close by, desert areas in another direction. I'm like surrounded by all kinds of differrent terraims. Its pretty cool. But most time is spent headed up to mountain areas where rain and snow are prevalent. Not just on the dirt roads, on the pavememt to get to places. I just dont like awd haaha

Morat

Sounds like a great place to have a Jeep!
I'm still not getting this AWD thing though. I understand AWD to be the fake 4WD that modern crossovers have where they roll along in 2WD all the time and then do traction control accross both axles when the driven wheel start to slip.
That isn't what a 242 does. All 4 wheels are driven the whole time, just like a 231 except you have the option to unlock the TC to give the equivalent of an open centre diff so you can turn on pavement.
If you don't like it, 2WD is still there....

Still, I guess it's horses for courses.

Tbone289

I tend to agree that full-time 4WD really isn't the same as AWD, and they probably shouldn't be lumped into a general "AWD" description. AWD is usually a FWD-based system that doesn't have a transfer case and low range option. However, some full-time 4WD systems have been called AWD by their manufacturers (at least in the US), and I think that has muddied the terminology a bit.

With that said, I really have no use for full-time 4WD because I've rarely been in a situation where I needed more than 2WD on pavement. On those rare occasions, traction was low and part-time 4WD fit the bill, and it always fits the bill off-road as well. Full-time 4WD really just complicates a perfectly usable system, IMO, but I realize that other's uses may differ from mine.

00t444e

I agree, I don't have much use for the full time on my np242, I either need 4x4 or I don't.

Morat

Well for the OP - I haven't heard anything that would put me off a nice police package XJ. But you can always swap to a 231 if you prefer.

And I've learnt something about New Mexico