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Old 07-13-2012 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbeaujean28
How do these don't rub when other ones do?
Full lock my tires never ever rubbed. Never seen a set run unless the axle was not properly centered after being lifted. That would be my guess why some here rubbed
Old 07-13-2012 | 04:23 PM
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Search button is your friend, you can fit 33's on a stock rig, the real question is how much trimming you want to do.
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I have 235/75-15's (about a 29" tire) on Stock Jeep Ravine wheels and a 2" lift. No rubbing. I did add Rough Country 1.5 spacers just to push the wheels out a bit and widen the stance, but it wasn't required.

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Old 07-13-2012 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by macgyver35
I have 235/75-15's (about a 29" tire) on Stock Jeep Ravine wheels and a 2" lift. No rubbing. I did add Rough Country 1.5 spacers just to push the wheels out a bit and widen the stance, but it wasn't required.
How much did the lift cost and spacers, that looks really good, if I did a 2 inch with 30s you think they will rub?
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Or if I do what you did I don't need 30s lol they still fill the space nicely
Old 07-13-2012 | 09:11 PM
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I had 30s on a 2" lift and they rubbed.
Old 07-13-2012 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbeaujean28
I am ordering a 3inch lift kit for my 98 XJ and I can't decide if my jeep will look better with 30s or 31s if 31s run I don't want to do back spacing what should I do? And also what exact tire dimension should I get?
Well you said you are getting a 3" lift so I would assume it has the Lower controll arms and all.

I bought installed 31 10.5s on mine with no issues what so ever. I really do wish I would have done 33s though and went with the cutouts.
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Originally Posted by Jbeaujean28
How much did the lift cost and spacers, that looks really good, if I did a 2 inch with 30s you think they will rub?
The front spacers were $50. The rear springs, Old Man Emu, were around $120 each. Sourced at 4 Wheel Parts. Mine's a daily driver, so I wanted to keep it affordable. Once you get in the 3+ range on lifts, you can greatly increase the likelihood of death wobble and drive-line vibration. This may require slip yoke eliminators, dropped t-case, or shims to correct pinion angle. No, these issues won't crop up on every Cherokee, at least not right away, but a 2" lift gets me where I need to go, but still keeps the cost down. And death wobble has proven a dangerous and elusive condition to eliminate for many people. Staying at 2" also lets me use slightly smaller tires, which also reduces cost. Plus, the metrics (specifically I have the Firestone Destination All-Terrain. $610 out the door for 4) actually come with a 40K mile tread-life warranty! They're also MUCH better on wet roads that BFG AT/KOs. A lot less float and hydroplaning. They have a mud terrain version, but I don't know if they have a tread-life warranty on them.

I think you'd could be fine with 30's on a two inch lift. Many people do just that. It will just depend on wheel backspacing and the specific tire you choose. Obviously, tires that have a very wide and knobby shoulder lugs will be more likely to rub, while those that are more rounded off will be fine. Stock wheels will be more likely to position the tire to rub than most aftermarket ones will. A good tire shop will help you determine if you'll have rubbing. And even if you do, you can buy 1.5" spacers for all 4 wheels from Rough Country for about $140.

For an idea of what a 2" lift and 30's will handle on a Cherokee, look at this guy's video. What he goes through is about as much as I ever plan on tackling.

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Originally Posted by macgyver35

The front spacers were $50. The rear springs, Old Man Emu, were around $120 each. Sourced at 4 Wheel Parts. Mine's a daily driver, so I wanted to keep it affordable. Once you get in the 3+ range on lifts, you can greatly increase the likelihood of death wobble and drive-line vibration. This may require slip yoke eliminators, dropped t-case, or shims to correct pinion angle. No, these issues won't crop up on every Cherokee, at least not right away, but a 2" lift gets me where I need to go, but still keeps the cost down. And death wobble has proven a dangerous and elusive condition to eliminate for many people. Staying at 2" also lets me use slightly smaller tires, which also reduces cost. Plus, the metrics (specifically I have the Firestone Destination All-Terrain. $610 out the door for 4) actually come with a 40K mile tread-life warranty! They're also MUCH better on wet roads that BFG AT/KOs. A lot less float and hydroplaning. They have a mud terrain version, but I don't know if they have a tread-life warranty on them.

I think you'd could be fine with 30's on a two inch lift. Many people do just that. It will just depend on wheel backspacing and the specific tire you choose. Obviously, tires that have a very wide and knobby shoulder lugs will be more likely to rub, while those that are more rounded off will be fine. Stock wheels will be more likely to position the tire to rub than most aftermarket ones will. A good tire shop will help you determine if you'll have rubbing. And even if you do, you can buy 1.5" spacers for all 4 wheels from Rough Country for about $140.

For an idea of what a 2" lift and 30's will handle on a Cherokee, look at this guy's video. What he goes through is about as much as I ever plan on tackling.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iru5NfTfocI
If I get all four 1.5" spacers from rough country on a 2 inch lift you think I'll be fine? And you told me the tires you have, but are they P235 75R 15s?
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It's hard to tell what wheels you have, so this is based on some assumption. It looks like in your pictures that your running BFG's on some Grand Cherokee factory "web style" wheels.

But, since my stock Ravine wheels didn't rub with what amounts to 29's (they're actually 235/75-15) on stock backspacing, I don't imagine yours will rub with the same tire size or even 30's if you use the spacers and stock wheels. i'm about 98% certain you'll be fine.
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just get the tires and if they rub get some wheel spacers. you wont even need 1.5" ones, .5-1" would be fine to eliminate rub. you will only rub at full lock so you can drive on it for a while to figure out what else you would need to fix it
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if your tires rub, you can also add a longer screw to the steering stop. less than $1.
Old 07-14-2012 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by macgyver35
It's hard to tell what wheels you have, so this is based on some assumption. It looks like in your pictures that your running BFG's on some Grand Cherokee factory "web style" wheels.

But, since my stock Ravine wheels didn't rub with what amounts to 29's (they're actually 235/75-15) on stock backspacing, I don't imagine yours will rub with the same tire size or even 30's if you use the spacers and stock wheels. i'm about 98% certain you'll be fine.
Yeah sorry about that my pics aren't the best but they are goodyear wrangler rt/s (235/75-15) I just like how yours look and I want mine to look like that
Old 07-14-2012 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by macgyver35
It's hard to tell what wheels you have, so this is based on some assumption. It looks like in your pictures that your running BFG's on some Grand Cherokee factory "web style" wheels.

But, since my stock Ravine wheels didn't rub with what amounts to 29's (they're actually 235/75-15) on stock backspacing, I don't imagine yours will rub with the same tire size or even 30's if you use the spacers and stock wheels. i'm about 98% certain you'll be fine.
Step by step how would I install the spacers?
Old 07-14-2012 | 08:36 PM
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Remove stock wheels place spacer on hub, use supplied nuts then add your wheel, tighten to spec



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