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Old 12-30-2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck82

Do you think I really need them? The xj is the only vehicle I have so it's my DD I'm not trying to go all trail rig on it haha, I guess it'd be a good idea to have them right?
You could always go with a smaller spring lift, bolt in relo's, and see if your current shackles work as far as height. Do you need them, well no, but if you want your shackle at the right angle it's something to invest in. You'll have a better ride and more articulation.
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Originally Posted by helmut
Yeah, they are good to have if your shackle is pulled forward due to cheapo leafsprings being too short. So not sure if you will need them until you instal the lift. Ideally for a 4.5in lift you would need a 3.5in leafpack and a longer shackle though (possibly with no lift relocators if needed). So if you are getting 4.5in leafs naturally there could only be one outcome if you add a taller shackle to the mix.
When I install the lift I guess I'll know by then, I'm going with the RC 4.5 X-Series, I have Heard the leafs are a little on the short side idk if they changed that issue though I heard that a while back
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Originally Posted by PDXJ
Problem you may run into (i did) was the 4.5 inch leafs caused the shackle to bottom out in the hangers, had to add longer shackles which means more lift. If I had it to do over I would buy 3 inch leafs and longer shackles for a true 4.5 inches.
You figured it out the hard way.
4.5" leaf packs are used for 6" of lift.
To reach 4.5" lift, the correct way is 3" or 3.5" leaf packs and an extended shackle.
The stock shackle used with these leaf springs will not function properly. Will not allow the leaf pack to articulate.
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Oh it will articulate. I have the 3in aal kit and can probably climb a 31 or 33 with the rear
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
You figured it out the hard way. 4.5" leaf packs are used for 6" of lift. To reach 4.5" lift, the correct way is 3" or 3.5" leaf packs and an extended shackle. The stock shackle used with these leaf springs will not function properly. Will not allow the leaf pack to articulate.
So should I get the no lift relocation brackets? I'm buying a kit so idk if that makes any difference at all?
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Originally Posted by Chuck82
So should I get the no lift relocation brackets? I'm buying a kit so idk if that makes any difference at all?
get this kit
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=XLK
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Originally Posted by PurpleToxin505
I'm getting a full leaf pack I'm not a fan of add a leafs haha the x series used to have longer shackles in it I think by now they don't which is odd
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Oh it will articulate. I have the 3in aal kit and can probably climb a 31 or 33 with the rear
Nice, I saw the picture and the front is flexing good but the back end looks stiff. Is the swaybar still connected?
Taller leaf springs need a longer shackle to function correctly. Add-a-leafs are a different story.
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No sway bars.
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So should I get the no lift relocation brackets? I'm buying a kit so idk if that makes any difference at all?
If you have no problem hacking off your spring boxes, go for it. If you do, go for the bolt in style and smaller lift springs. You can always piece your lift together instead of going with a complete kit.
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If you have no problem hacking off your spring boxes, go for it. If you do, go for the bolt in style and smaller lift springs. You can always piece your lift together instead of going with a complete kit.
So I could use my extended shackles they're adjustable from 1.5 to 2in so would te bolt in ones work for that?!
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Originally Posted by Chuck82

So I could use my extended shackles they're adjustable from 1.5 to 2in so would te bolt in ones work for that?!
Additional lift for the bolt in ones are dependent on shackle angle and length. Brian states 3/4"-1.5" on his website, but I'm assuming that's with a stock shackle.

http://hdoffroadengineering.myshopif...relocation-kit
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Originally Posted by Chuck82
So I could use my extended shackles they're adjustable from 1.5 to 2in so would te bolt in ones work for that?!
Use the existing shackles with a 3inch leaf in the rear and the 4.5inch stuff for the front ideally but not sure how you would order it as a kit that way.
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Keep the coil spacers in the front I have never heard of them causing problems. I can imagine if you tried to stack a number of them but 1-2" is fine.

Just because things come as a kit doesnt mean it is engineered well or all aspects are built well. You would do yourself a great service if you take the advice of piecing your lift together. For one you want good shocks and the ones in most kits are not very good. Take a look at the parts list from the kit you like and create your own off of it.

Dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with using a kit. They get you lifted and tons of folks have gone that route even myself when I started. I just wouldnt do it again that way and if I had taken more time researching I would have done things different.

Best of luck with whichever path you go down. Either way you will likely learn some things and hopefully enjoy the experience.


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