X2

 

they look like the same winch with different stickers....

 

Yeah but the badlands failed miserably compared to other winches

 

ENGO E12000 Winch

Rated Line Pull 12,000 lb.(5454kg)
Motor 6.0 HP, Series Wound
Gearing 3-Stage Planetary
Gear Ratio 265:1
Brake Automatic Load Holding
Clutch Free Spooling
Fairlead Heavy Duty 4 Way Galvanized Roller
Cable or Rope Wire 3/8" x 85' (9.5mm x 26m)
Net Weight 89 lb. (40kg)
Dimensions Length x Width x Height, 21.9" x 6.3" x 8.7" (555mm x 161mm x 222mm)
Drum Dimensions Diameter 2.5" (63mm) x Length 8.8" (224mm)
Mounting Bolt Pattern 10" x 4.5" (254mm x 114.3mm)
Warranty Limited Lifetime / 1-Year Electrical Warranty
E12000 Click Here for Full Specifications


Badlands 12,000lb

Three-stage planetary gear system for fast line speed
Series-wound motor stays cooler during long winch pulls
Freespooling for fast line-out
Power in/out for positive load control
Automatic load-holding brake for maximum safety
12 ft. ergonomic handheld remote control
Roller fairlead: 11.73'' L x 5'' W x 3.46'' H
Aircraft grade wire rope
Volts: 12VDC
Horsepower: 6
1st layer line speed: 16.4 fpm (no load), 9.1 fpm (4000 lbs.), 7.6 fpm (8000 lbs.),5 fpm (12,000 lbs.)
Drum diameter: 2.5"
Gear ratio: 235:1
Cable: 3/8" x 100 ft.
Overall dimensions: 21-1/4'' L x 6-5/16'' W x 8-9/16'' H
Shipping Weight: 95.00 lbs.

 

Check out my topic from awhile back before I bought my winch

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/an...inches-115999/

 

Don't know what you consider an arm and a leg, but if the Warn is all there except for cable and it works it would be a good buy, because they work and are reliable. ( The most important thing in a winch when you need one. )

 

It may cost an arm and a leg, (which it doesnt, just depends what model you get) but when your cheap winch fails and you have a one armed and one legged guy winching you out with a warn, you'll wish you got one.

 

ya but he want give me a set price on it he's says well i gotta think about it but all it is a winch and it don't have anything else no cable no wiring or controls and its old

 

Check out the Engo winches for sale in the vendor forum. The 9.5k is $280 shipped. The 10k is $315 shipped. You can read this review about them here:
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...t/viewall.html

 

Sounds like you made up your mind before posting.

Get the off brand HF one then. We aren't gonna stop you...obviously.

 

no there all the same price range but i want one that will work under water and i looked at the test and that engo winch did well in the test

 

i use to own the badlands 8k ld winch and had it mounted to the front of my MJ.
it was ok, hadn't really let me down at all...





BUT after not even a year of wheeling and getting stuck to the point that tow strap's weren't cutting it and then i used the winch... (prolly about 30 hard pulls) the case started to fail..



Now since i paid for the extended warranty i got a new one for only $50 and also another 2 year warranty. I will say though, that if i could do it again i would have saved a little more and gotten the XRC 8k winch or a Warn winch isntead...

Your badlands winch WILL FAIL much sooner than either the XRC or a nice Warn winch will. I got lucky because they discontinued the 8K so they gave me a 9k for no extra charge, but i'm still saving up to buy a Warn (lifetime warranty!) So you can jump on the wagon to have a winch sure... or you can buy a decent winch that will last a long time without major issues for a little more cash and have that extra security.

 

lifetime warranty with a warn i didn't know that ? ya I'm putting the HF crap out of my head being how all my buddies trail rigs are 1 ton and bigger and i will be the only one with a winch i should upgrade to something that will last for sure but you said ''that if i could do it again i would have saved a little more and gotten the XRC 8k winch or a Warn winch isntead...'' so which is it everyone uses the XRC on this forum it seems but theres a big price difference between the two i want to spend 600 tops on a winch but if warn has a lifetime warranty that sounds like its worth a few more bucks do you have to a receipt to have this LIFETIME warranty? if not ill buy my buddies and get all the arts for it

 

or a little cheaper route


now they are both labeled Limited Lifetime warrenty and 1 year warrenty on the electronics, but warn is an awesome company. Unfortunately the warrenty is only valid to the original purchaser. Though I have had a few buddies picking up the old ones call them up and get a decent parts package and a fair price so they are reasonable to work with.

Trust me, from one jeeper to another. Buy your winch Once and be happy, or take a small set of stairs and then get a good winch.