Blocks in the back bad?
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stop trying change subject and to get a ruse out of me, what I wheel and my pics are irrelevant to the question on hand. are your answers above proven facts of physics?
you said yourself that 1.5" wont do anything "I agree the taller the block the more axle wrap you can have. But honestly 1.5" is not enough to do anything negative." post #77 but law of physics shows farther the distance of a pivoting point(even in small amounts), the lesser the effort to turn it and greater the force is applied to it. just like a breaker bar and prybars,
you said yourself that 1.5" wont do anything "I agree the taller the block the more axle wrap you can have. But honestly 1.5" is not enough to do anything negative." post #77 but law of physics shows farther the distance of a pivoting point(even in small amounts), the lesser the effort to turn it and greater the force is applied to it. just like a breaker bar and prybars,
You are being silly. I mean very silly!
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cat got your tongue? you seem to have become short on words, let alone come up with a counter argument. or are you hoping to just have the last word in this thread by posting gibberish?
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Bud your wasting your time, this guy is exactly like my ex-wife, such a narcissist that even when presented with the proof/facts, he'll never admit he's wrong and he'll twist everything around till everyone is so pissed they'll give up and he'll think he's won. Rant over.
#154
Bud your wasting your time, this guy is exactly like my ex-wife, such a narcissist that even when presented with the proof/facts, he'll never admit he's wrong and he'll twist everything around till everyone is so pissed they'll give up and he'll think he's won. Rant over.
I never was arguing the guy. His whole schtick is made up and you are jumping right in their.
Of course any extension away from the center of the axle causes more axle wrap.
Holy cow its like grade school around here. That stupid point was never an argument. I just said its not going to make a real difference or. Concern in the real world.
NEver was I arguing physics. LMAO.
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Demonoid is trying to get facts through to you, you just shrug it off because you seem to believe you are all knowing.
Not sure if you see it or not, but what you said a page or so back describes yourself better than anyone else in this thread.
Not sure if you see it or not, but what you said a page or so back describes yourself better than anyone else in this thread.
I learned a long time ago that people rarely change their minds. Once a idea is formed in the individuals mind he or she will die defending that idea regardless of evidences shown. Again not always, but the large majority. Few people possess true open minded reasoning.
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I never was arguing the guy. His whole schtick is made up and you are jumping right in their.
so physics is made up?
Of course any extension away from the center of the axle causes more axle wrap.
contradicting yourself? because now your saying any distance away from the center will do it, so 1."-1.5" then??
Holy cow its like grade school around here. That stupid point was never an argument. I just said its not going to make a real difference or. Concern in the real world.
so repetitive small movements of axle wrap isn't going to put more strain and stress on to leafs? not going to shorten their life? lead to warped springs later in life?
Ever was I arguing physics. LMAO.
so physics is made up?
Of course any extension away from the center of the axle causes more axle wrap.
contradicting yourself? because now your saying any distance away from the center will do it, so 1."-1.5" then??
Holy cow its like grade school around here. That stupid point was never an argument. I just said its not going to make a real difference or. Concern in the real world.
so repetitive small movements of axle wrap isn't going to put more strain and stress on to leafs? not going to shorten their life? lead to warped springs later in life?
Ever was I arguing physics. LMAO.
if your leafs are only making it a year and your the only here saying blocks are fine....... I'll let you connect the two..
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unless you do some serious modding, you are going to have axle wrap. with blocks, without blocks, whathave you. axle wrap is there, everytime you hit the gas, whether it is a noticeable amount or not doesn't matter because it is there. blocks extend the distance from the pivot point(leafts) to the end of the lever(axle) therefor, they will increase the amount of axle wrap you have. again, whether or not it is a noticeable amount doesn't matter because unless you do something to correct the problem, the axle wrap will be there.
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but you were arguing physics, by not accepting that just because it doesn't turn into a S-shape quickly with 8" blocks, you figured it doesn't do a dang thing because it'll "take longer" you say people are lucky to even have their suspension last a a year correct? well if you would actually read the threads on here, naxja, and jeepforum, you would see that just about everyone's bastard packs and name brand leafs are lasting well in to 3-6 years.
if your leafs are only making it a year and your the only here saying blocks are fine....... I'll let you connect the two..
if your leafs are only making it a year and your the only here saying blocks are fine....... I'll let you connect the two..
Again I am not or never was arguing your point. You have created an argument I did not want.
If you don't want to run blocks by all means don't. Just leave the ones who choose to alone. Because its working fine for us.
I will be wheeling about 30 more times this year hopfully and I will make certain to report back.
In 159 posts there has not been one person on here who claimed small lift blocks hurt their truck or spring pack. Only opinion on why they are so bad.
Thats the problem with the net. So little real experiences, so many opinions.
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heck the first guy only noticed it once, but unfortunately, rest assured its happening even with him not noticing.
you know what could have helped your case and not make ya look the fool? all you would have had to was say
"I run blocks, they work alright. I know there is a bit of axle wrap because of them, but I chose that risk."
that right there would warn and let newbies and others you arent even members of this forum understand that ya, you can run blocks but its not going to not have its own problems.
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so really? not a single person? at all?
heck the first guy only noticed it once, but unfortunately, rest assured its happening even with him not noticing.
I don't have a issue if you want to run blocks or if others do to, as long as they understand the consequences, which YOU kept saying there wasnt. anderson dont say you didn't I've already showed you and others that bit.
you know what could have helped your case and not make ya look the fool? all you would have had to was say
"I run blocks, they've they work alright. I know there is a bit of axle wrap because of them, but I chose that risk."
that right there would warn and let newbies and others you arent even members of this forum understand that ya, you can run blocks but its not going to not have its own problems.
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so really? not a single person? at all?
heck the first guy only noticed it once, but unfortunately, rest assured its happening even with him not noticing.
I don't have a issue if you want to run blocks or if others do to, as long as they understand the consequences, which YOU kept saying there wasnt. anderson dont say you didn't I've already showed you and others that bit.
you know what could have helped your case and not make ya look the fool? all you would have had to was say
"I run blocks, they've they work alright. I know there is a bit of axle wrap because of them, but I chose that risk."
that right there would warn and let newbies and others you arent even members of this forum understand that ya, you can run blocks but its not going to not have its own problems.
THe only some what legit example you gave was stang. And how much do you want to bet it was not with 1.5" blocks? The other example the man said they suck but have been on there for 4 years! Which actually proves my point and not yours. Also a dollar says they are 3" blocks. Which is not what I suggested although I would not condemn them.
SO now the evidence you posted is in my favor. Thank you for proving my point.
1.5 in blocks are fine to run. And probably 99% of 4 wheel enthusiasts with any experience knows this.
IF you want to keep on saying 1.5" blocks are bad then go for it. This conversation has ran its course after the first troll flamed me for claiming 1.5" blocks were fine.
ALl the best.
P.S. do some wheeling, its much better than internet.
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1.5 in blocks are fine to run. And probably 99% of 4 wheel enthusiasts with any experience knows this.
IF you want to keep on saying 1.5" blocks are bad then go for it. This conversation has ran its course after the first troll flamed me for claiming 1.5" blocks were fine.
IF you want to keep on saying 1.5" blocks are bad then go for it. This conversation has ran its course after the first troll flamed me for claiming 1.5" blocks were fine.
this is the point I've been trying to get across this whole thread. he's just thick in the head and delusional
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The other example the man said they suck but have been on there for 4 years! Which actually proves my point and not yours.
guess you didn't see the part where it says " i have terrible axle wrap. my leafs are junk, and it rides like crap".
SO now the evidence you posted is in my favor. Thank you for proving my point.
you truly are delusional aren't you? lol
1.5 in blocks are fine to run. And probably 99% of 4 wheel enthusiasts with any experience knows this.
so far that 99% has been disagreeing with ya....
P.S. do some wheeling, its much better than internet.
and law of physics prove much better than just a one man opinion with wheeling
guess you didn't see the part where it says " i have terrible axle wrap. my leafs are junk, and it rides like crap".
SO now the evidence you posted is in my favor. Thank you for proving my point.
you truly are delusional aren't you? lol
1.5 in blocks are fine to run. And probably 99% of 4 wheel enthusiasts with any experience knows this.
so far that 99% has been disagreeing with ya....
P.S. do some wheeling, its much better than internet.
and law of physics prove much better than just a one man opinion with wheeling
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why can't you understand. no one is saying it's NOT ok to run blocks. you keep saying that blocks do no damage or add no axle wrap. this is wrong. physically, blocks allow your axle to wrap the leafs more. this is more damaging over time than running no blocks. that's all. we just want people to know this before making the decision to put blocks on their rig