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Old 06-06-2013, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
Shoulda just went straight to 4.5" coil spring spacers and blocks with shackles and holes in the leaf springs. It'd flecks like a *****.

I know.
Ill prolly trash my 3 link, coils, and leafs, and just run a nice set of stock springs and coils, some spacers (QUALITY spacers), some blocks (QUALITY blocks), then drill some relief holes in my leafs. Then Ill prolly just spend my money ive been saving up for lockers for a new ring and pinion after I power brake to try to replicate what a locker does.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
and as usual no experience And only opinion is posted as argument
Opinions?!?! Last time I checked, physics and mechanics wasn't an opinion but actually facts and truth. What YOU say is a opinion and a crap one at that.
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mechanical advantage is an concept for some people.
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Holycaveman trollin again.
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http://andecline.blogspot.com/2010/0...block.html?m=1

Here is a good read on how good lift blocks are.
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mine currently has 3" blocks in the back and the only time I have noticed axle wrap or wheelhop was once when backing out of a mudhole in 4hi and it hopped like crazy. that is the only time I have noticed it
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Originally Posted by DougyFresh
mine currently has 3" blocks in the back and the only time I have noticed axle wrap or wheelhop was once when backing out of a mudhole in 4hi and it hopped like crazy. that is the only time I have noticed it
You had wheel hop in mud?
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Originally Posted by DougyFresh
mine currently has 3" blocks in the back and the only time I have noticed axle wrap or wheelhop was once when backing out of a mudhole in 4hi and it hopped like crazy. that is the only time I have noticed it
You aren't pushing the pedal hard enough. You'd notice it in the rocks with more traction.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
SHow us all proof or personal experience where 1.5" blocks failed or caused springs to fail?

Present evidence. Prove your opinion is worthy. I have been wheeling with these a year with no problems what so ever. I gave honest advise from personal experience.

NOt so much to ask for you to do the same.
here's the way I see it. you know how a breaker bar works. you're able to put more torque onto a bolt the longer your ratchet handle is. and it's much easier to turn that bolt with the longer ratchet. same idea applies to lift blocks. putting more distance between your axle and your leaf makes it easier for your axle to twist the leaf. not saying you can't get away with blocks without severe damage. but to tell people it does no harm at all is complete BS. and I dont need real life experience to understand that



someone flame this information if it sounds just as dumb as what caveman is saying
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Originally Posted by Atmos
here's the way I see it. you know how a breaker bar works. you're able to put more torque onto a bolt the longer your ratchet handle is. and it's much easier to turn that bolt with the longer ratchet. same idea applies to lift blocks. putting more distance between your axle and your leaf makes it easier for your axle to twist the leaf. not saying you can't get away with blocks without severe damage. but to tell people it does no harm at all is complete BS. and I dont need real life experience to understand that



someone flame this information if it sounds just as dumb as what caveman is saying
I thought that information was obvious. It's pretty disappointing when you have to explain it time and time again.
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
I thought that information was obvious. It's pretty disappointing when you have to explain it time and time again.




For the guys out there who are really looking for sound advice. Its here, but you have to wade through so much crap to get it.

THat said you boys may want to write a letter to every suspension company out there telling them how unsafe blocks are. Then you may want to write letters to all the vehicle manufacturers stating how their trucks are unsafe.

I really don't know how the automotive world gets by without your surpreme internet knowledge.

LIsten guys if you don't want to run blocks don't run them.

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Originally Posted by holycaveman
I am a complete idiot for trying to talk reason into a bunch of internet kings.

ITs just not worth it.

For the guys out there who are really looking for sound advice. Its here, but you have to wade through so much crap to get it.

THat said you boys may want to write a letter to every suspension company out there telling them how unsafe blocks are. Then you may want to write letters to all the vehicle manufacturers stating how their trucks are unsafe.

I really don't know how the automotive world gets by without your surpreme internet knowledge.

LIsten guys if you don't want to run blocks don't run them.
Suspension companies are aware that they aren't the best option but they manufacture them and sell them because they know people that listen to you will buy them.

Vehicle manufacturers that put blocks on vehicles are either not building the vehicle for off-road use or they're putting them on trucks with 12 leaves in the leaf pack. That's completely different compared to our thin little XJ packs...

Why don't you supply a response to Atmos? He has supplied you with an example. Or are you just going to resort to your typical insults when proven wrong?

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you could build a bastard pack and be way safer than a block. I have seen to many rigs have issues with block lifts on jeeps toyotas light trucks. the falure points are increased by the added torque to the leaf pack. i have seen centering pins u bolts and main leafs all break do to block lifts.
I will never run blocks on a jeep.
my jeep gets axle wrap without blocks and i have 3/4 ton leaves in my lift. if i added a leave i have no doubt that my jeep would rip my rear end apart.

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Originally Posted by lowrange2
Vehicle manufacturers that put blocks on vehicles are either not building the vehicle for off-road use or they're putting them on trucks with 12 leaves in the leaf pack. That's completely different compared to our thin little XJ packs...
i concur. anyone who compares xj leaves to fullsize TRUCK leaves is out of touch.
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Originally Posted by stang65
you could build a bastard pack and be way safer than a block. I have seen to many rigs have issues with block lifts on jeeps toyotas light trucks. the falure points are increased by the added torque to the leaf pack. i have seen centering pins u bolts and main leafs all break do to block lifts.
I will never run blocks on a jeep.
Cavedude is going to say that bastard packs don't flecks far enough to use the brake pedal locker.
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