Cherokee Dependability
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I am very familiar with drive-by-wire, I own 4 vehicles that use an APPS on the skinny pedal.
You seem to forget that an XJ throttle cable is only useful for metering air. There are 7 sensors on your 1993 that determine fuel delivery.
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I'll probably get burned for saying this, but if you are looking for a new jeep, and its going to be mainly a city car with some all weather pretenses, and you don't want a wrangler/grand cherokee, Look at the Patriot/Compass (same platform with identical power trains, just different sheet metal)
They are FAR cheaper than the cherokee.
They have been around for a lot longer and have proven to be very reliable.
They offer comparable room to the cherokee.
They can be modded and actually have after market support for lift kits, winches, roof racks, rock rails, etc. along with a lot of mopar accessories to make it a bit more off road worthy if you wish.
They are NOT as refined as the cherokee
They do not have all the creature comforts of the cherokee.
They do not have all the tech wizardry of the cherokee.
Do NOT get the 2.0l engine (only available on FWD patriots), it is too under powered. if you get the 2.4l engine, you have an option of a FWD with a 6 speed hyundai transmission or a 5 speed manual, OR you have an option of a 4x4 (called Freedom Drive one, or FDI) with the same 6 speed hyundai transmission/5 speed manual, or if you don't care about fuel economy, you can get the Freedom Drive two (FDII) with standard skid plates, tow hooks, hill decent control, nearly 2' of water fording, aggressive brake lock diffs, and other off road goodies, it comes with a CVT transmission made by JATCO, which is reliable, but sensitive to fluid conditions (so don't skip those changes!). I had one of the latter and went all over the place with it and never had a single issue with it.
They are FAR cheaper than the cherokee.
They have been around for a lot longer and have proven to be very reliable.
They offer comparable room to the cherokee.
They can be modded and actually have after market support for lift kits, winches, roof racks, rock rails, etc. along with a lot of mopar accessories to make it a bit more off road worthy if you wish.
They are NOT as refined as the cherokee
They do not have all the creature comforts of the cherokee.
They do not have all the tech wizardry of the cherokee.
Do NOT get the 2.0l engine (only available on FWD patriots), it is too under powered. if you get the 2.4l engine, you have an option of a FWD with a 6 speed hyundai transmission or a 5 speed manual, OR you have an option of a 4x4 (called Freedom Drive one, or FDI) with the same 6 speed hyundai transmission/5 speed manual, or if you don't care about fuel economy, you can get the Freedom Drive two (FDII) with standard skid plates, tow hooks, hill decent control, nearly 2' of water fording, aggressive brake lock diffs, and other off road goodies, it comes with a CVT transmission made by JATCO, which is reliable, but sensitive to fluid conditions (so don't skip those changes!). I had one of the latter and went all over the place with it and never had a single issue with it.
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gm has been offering reliable 4-6 speed autos for a decade. some of these transmissions are capable handling 700+ hp in stock form, i.e. the 6L90. the 4L80 is a beast, as well.
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93_xjcherokee..... stop while you're behind.
More ignorant Crap from you.
The issue with the cars going full throttle wasn't an electrical issue. It was the throttle pedal get stuck under the floor mats. So there was a mechanical failure. Not electrical.
Next time you're not sure what your talking about, just don't post.
More ignorant Crap from you.
The issue with the cars going full throttle wasn't an electrical issue. It was the throttle pedal get stuck under the floor mats. So there was a mechanical failure. Not electrical.
Next time you're not sure what your talking about, just don't post.
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http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1323631
First page talks about the stuck throttle and there's 8 more electronics related recalls. Well 7 cuz the gm ignition isn't electronics related.
First page talks about the stuck throttle and there's 8 more electronics related recalls. Well 7 cuz the gm ignition isn't electronics related.
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It was the throttle pedal get stuck under the floor mats. So there was a mechanical failure. Not electrical.
if so the fix was a reflash of the computer and a spacer of some sort on the gas pedal.. floor mats had nothing to do with it. just something that was blamed early on. they say the american built parts for the gas pedal had play causing it to stick.. personally i think that was just a cover to make people feel like they found the real issue.. i think the issue was fixed in the reflash of the computer myself.
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you talking about the camry recall?
if so the fix was a reflash of the computer and a spacer of some sort on the gas pedal.. floor mats had nothing to do with it. just something that was blamed early on. they say the american built parts for the gas pedal had play causing it to stick.. personally i think that was just a cover to make people feel like they found the real issue.. i think the issue was fixed in the reflash of the computer myself.
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Here is a direct news story about it.
"We’ve gotten hold of documents relating to that other Toyota recall, the one from last fall regarding pedal interference with floor mats. Tying the floor mats to the seats was the short term fix, but now Toyota has the permanent solution. This includes cars with the Denso pedal that is not part of the sticky-pedal recall. The main features: cutting off the bottom of the pedal to make it shorter (yes, with a reciprocating saw) reworking the sound-deadening and carpet near the pedal, and most important, from our point of view, a reflash of the computer to give braking priority over throttle inputs. The documents we looked at specifically concerns Camry models with the Denso pedal. Our other report details the shim fix to vehicles with the CTS pedal, but that doesn’t describe making these changes to the bottom of the pedal or the carpet. Or is that covered under a separate recall? Almost certainly, as its inconceivable that the reflash wouldn’t be applied to both models. We’ll confirm that ASAP.
Meanwhile, the Denso-equipped Camrys will have some portion of their pedals cut off with a reciprocating saw, orbital sander, and a template and gauge (tools supplied by Toyota). Some work will be done to remove sound deadening material and modify the floor surface. And any of the older all-weather mats will be replaced by newer versions. The flat rate to dealers is 2.1 hours.
We’d like to see Toyota place more emphasis on their plans to reflash the computers, and come out with a time-table for covering all their vehicles that need this done, ASAP."
Again. Make sure you know what you're talking about before posting.
The vehicle that started the whole "full throttle" issue was a rental Lexus suv. Had factory floor mats, cheap "weathertech" floor mats, and another cheap floor mat on top of it. The pedal got stuck. People died. Toyota bit the bullet and made it Tard proof by taking it in the rear and calling it a recall. They could of stated that "don't use floor mats" but that wouldn't work.
"We’ve gotten hold of documents relating to that other Toyota recall, the one from last fall regarding pedal interference with floor mats. Tying the floor mats to the seats was the short term fix, but now Toyota has the permanent solution. This includes cars with the Denso pedal that is not part of the sticky-pedal recall. The main features: cutting off the bottom of the pedal to make it shorter (yes, with a reciprocating saw) reworking the sound-deadening and carpet near the pedal, and most important, from our point of view, a reflash of the computer to give braking priority over throttle inputs. The documents we looked at specifically concerns Camry models with the Denso pedal. Our other report details the shim fix to vehicles with the CTS pedal, but that doesn’t describe making these changes to the bottom of the pedal or the carpet. Or is that covered under a separate recall? Almost certainly, as its inconceivable that the reflash wouldn’t be applied to both models. We’ll confirm that ASAP.
Meanwhile, the Denso-equipped Camrys will have some portion of their pedals cut off with a reciprocating saw, orbital sander, and a template and gauge (tools supplied by Toyota). Some work will be done to remove sound deadening material and modify the floor surface. And any of the older all-weather mats will be replaced by newer versions. The flat rate to dealers is 2.1 hours.
We’d like to see Toyota place more emphasis on their plans to reflash the computers, and come out with a time-table for covering all their vehicles that need this done, ASAP."
Again. Make sure you know what you're talking about before posting.
The vehicle that started the whole "full throttle" issue was a rental Lexus suv. Had factory floor mats, cheap "weathertech" floor mats, and another cheap floor mat on top of it. The pedal got stuck. People died. Toyota bit the bullet and made it Tard proof by taking it in the rear and calling it a recall. They could of stated that "don't use floor mats" but that wouldn't work.
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Maybe a flame of the month contest should be held. Grab your keyboards, it's gonna get crazy.. Well, as crazy as you can get from talking from behind a screen lol
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