convincing the parents.....
#31
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From: Arizona
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Ha. Well I have brush guard roof rack and sliders. Not to mention the stupid subs I have now but I can't part with... I had a job but the economy sucks as you all know but when I turn 18 ( about 6 months it will open up a lot of offers... ) tires are next on the list after the lift. But a 3 inch with stocks won't look to bad. The tires I have now are still in good conditions
#32
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From: morrisonville ny
Year: 2000 @ 1994 givin away
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
#34
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From: Forest, VA
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
if your components are still usable, then you might wanna put the lift off for at least a little while. i don't know your parents, but most parents will let their kids do whatever with their vehicle once they turn 18. i doubt that your mom and dad will ask you to pay for the jeep before you modify it.
here's my reason.
you buy OEM suspension now, less than a year later, you're gonna be ready for a lift, and you'll be lucky to get 50 bucks for all of the components that you bought. a new set of decent 235/75-15 tires is gonna run you about $400-500, and you're gonna take'em off to put bigger ones with a lift. hah, good luck trying to sell them.
just like someone already said, save up for a long arm kit, you will thank yourself later.
i can tell you that mine rides a lot better with the lift and wider stance, than it did stock. and not because of worn out components.
here's my reason.
you buy OEM suspension now, less than a year later, you're gonna be ready for a lift, and you'll be lucky to get 50 bucks for all of the components that you bought. a new set of decent 235/75-15 tires is gonna run you about $400-500, and you're gonna take'em off to put bigger ones with a lift. hah, good luck trying to sell them.
just like someone already said, save up for a long arm kit, you will thank yourself later.
i can tell you that mine rides a lot better with the lift and wider stance, than it did stock. and not because of worn out components.
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From: Northeast CT
Year: 99
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I still say buy it, that's what I did. My parents didn't want me to "mod" my first Jeep when I was like 16/17 but after I did it they liked the way it looked and they realized it wasn't that bad. Some parents just need some persuasion
Rich, don't get your panties all in a bunch bud
#36
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From: Arizona
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If you don't have anything nice to say do say anything. And try to stay on topic when posting on a thread (- the bs and off topic threads ) greatly appreciated by everyone
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And as far as the "nothing nice to say dont say it," relax man, this isn't pre-school.
#39
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dude heres mine. i dont have the money for a lift but if its in thier name and they want it to stay stock let them pay for it. if you have the money for a 3" lift its your money and tell them that your not gonna spend it on anything but that. and if they want it to remain stock then let them waste their money on overpriced bs when you could get the lift and have the same effect.
but just my thoughts on the matter.
but just my thoughts on the matter.
#42
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From: Akron,OH
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L (242 CID) I6 MPI (High Output) **Chrysler Block Cast** - 190 hp (142 kW) @ 4600 rpm, 235 lb·ft
I know better than to go behind their backs. I'm going formal on this. Cost differences safety issues etc all laid out in a paper.... Its their jeep but I doubled the cost on it. My dad said he will chip in because it needs at least new shocks but I have to pay the rest. Any ideas to add to the pro side for the lift? Thanks for all the support
If they wont budge on the lift, go with rancho adjustable shocks- theyll give you about an inch and a half, and you can adjust the stiffness for comfort, safety, and your driving conditions- that would be where i would start, and they'll make your lift much better in the long run, when the jeep will be yours. put your money away and do it little by little.
if i were you, like everyone here, my main arguing point would be the price.
As for your girlfriend, mines 4'11". she has no problem getting in and out, and when shes wearing a skirt she asks me to help her down- dont worry about it- shell be fine, with your help. and if shes the type to complain, then you dont want to be with her in the long run anyway....
#43
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From: Slaughter, LA
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
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Here's my take as a parent.
If it's in my name and I'm paying for ANYTHING related to the insurance, maintenance and upkeep and the privileged individual I had instructed to not change anything on it cobbled together some sort of lift behind my back, the first thing I'd do is sell it and pocket the cash to cut my losses.
Basically, my house = my rules. Don't like it? GTFO and support yourself. I've done similar things to two out of three of our kids. Surprisingly, the second one called my bluff even though he had the first incident to learn from.
If you own it and your parents aren't paying for anything related to it, you have a bit more leeway, but if you live at home, it's still my house = my rules.
If it's in my name and I'm paying for ANYTHING related to the insurance, maintenance and upkeep and the privileged individual I had instructed to not change anything on it cobbled together some sort of lift behind my back, the first thing I'd do is sell it and pocket the cash to cut my losses.
Basically, my house = my rules. Don't like it? GTFO and support yourself. I've done similar things to two out of three of our kids. Surprisingly, the second one called my bluff even though he had the first incident to learn from.
If you own it and your parents aren't paying for anything related to it, you have a bit more leeway, but if you live at home, it's still my house = my rules.
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From: Arizona
Year: 1999
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Here's my take as a parent.
If it's in my name and I'm paying for ANYTHING related to the insurance, maintenance and upkeep and the privileged individual I had instructed to not change anything on it cobbled together some sort of lift behind my back, the first thing I'd do is sell it and pocket the cash to cut my losses.
Basically, my house = my rules. Don't like it? GTFO and support yourself. I've done similar things to two out of three of our kids. Surprisingly, the second one called my bluff even though he had the first incident to learn from.
If you own it and your parents aren't paying for anything related to it, you have a bit more leeway, but if you live at home, it's still my house = my rules.
If it's in my name and I'm paying for ANYTHING related to the insurance, maintenance and upkeep and the privileged individual I had instructed to not change anything on it cobbled together some sort of lift behind my back, the first thing I'd do is sell it and pocket the cash to cut my losses.
Basically, my house = my rules. Don't like it? GTFO and support yourself. I've done similar things to two out of three of our kids. Surprisingly, the second one called my bluff even though he had the first incident to learn from.
If you own it and your parents aren't paying for anything related to it, you have a bit more leeway, but if you live at home, it's still my house = my rules.
Carrying out my plan while making presentation on it. Getting resources today. Going ultra formal on this hoping they will notice my maturity
#45
I agree with you 100%. My parents gave me the jeep while they pay for basic upkeep insurance and half of the gas I pay for other half of gas and all mods. I have spent a lot on protection because its liability only so if I do cause a crash hopefully the damage will be less. I was thinking a lift will help in that aspect too.
Carrying out my plan while making presentation on it. Getting resources today. Going ultra formal on this hoping they will notice my maturity
Carrying out my plan while making presentation on it. Getting resources today. Going ultra formal on this hoping they will notice my maturity
Heres my plan as soon as the jeep is in my name, and im in my own house (for college, will be moving out as soon as i grad), take my lift, slap it on, wait till my tires are bald, get some good tires, then wait till dollar days come to a junkyard grab all the parts needed for the 4x4 swap, referb the t-case and axle, swap output shafts/housing, and put it all together. Then in the mean time, start building stuff like armor with the welder i have. It'll take a long time