Crazy idea thread
11-06-2015, 08:48 PM
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Let's make something clear. The devices you're talking about are electric superchargers. I have never heard of an "e-turbo". "Turbocharger" is the compressed name for a turbo-supercharger, because the supercharging is done via a turbine located in the exhaust stream instead of directly from the engine via gear or belt.
As you should. He got scammed, hard.
...that's literally the same thing...
Yes, that's exactly how a supercharger works.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
What grade are you in? Have you taken science class yet?
Really? I guess I can throw out this giant air conditioner in my house, 'cause all I need is an "e-turbo".
There is a large difference between "crazy" and "completely ignorant of the basic laws of physics".
What?
A cold air intake is a system that draws air OUTSIDE of the hot area of the engine bay. Ricer boys put them at the very bottom (and presumably don't drive in the rain) because they don't want to cut holes in their hood or make a ram. A snorkel is a perfectly valid route to draw in air cooler than the **** being flung out of the radiator. As is an intake built-in to the bumper or headlight, such as many factory performance cars. How much difference in temperature do you think the atmosphere has in a difference of FIVE FEET?
(P.S. the atmosphere gets cooler the higher up you go. Death Valley isn't named that because it's on a ****ing mountain)
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Fans feel cool because you're a warm-blooded mammal. Your body temperature is 37°C. As long as the fan is pushing 36°C air at you you will feel cooler.
What do you think air conditioners do?
The ****ty little electric superchargers sold on eBay etc literally do nothing. They cannot provide boost due to their design and really don't have much power at all as a fan.
Forced induction into a 4.0L will result in poor fuel economy without tuning.
THIS.
They're a scam.
Electric SuperChargers Mythbusted - YouTube
As you should. He got scammed, hard.
...that's literally the same thing...
Yes, that's exactly how a supercharger works.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
What grade are you in? Have you taken science class yet?
Really? I guess I can throw out this giant air conditioner in my house, 'cause all I need is an "e-turbo".
There is a large difference between "crazy" and "completely ignorant of the basic laws of physics".
What?
A cold air intake is a system that draws air OUTSIDE of the hot area of the engine bay. Ricer boys put them at the very bottom (and presumably don't drive in the rain) because they don't want to cut holes in their hood or make a ram. A snorkel is a perfectly valid route to draw in air cooler than the **** being flung out of the radiator. As is an intake built-in to the bumper or headlight, such as many factory performance cars. How much difference in temperature do you think the atmosphere has in a difference of FIVE FEET?
(P.S. the atmosphere gets cooler the higher up you go. Death Valley isn't named that because it's on a ****ing mountain)
+1
Fans feel cool because you're a warm-blooded mammal. Your body temperature is 37°C. As long as the fan is pushing 36°C air at you you will feel cooler.
What do you think air conditioners do?
The ****ty little electric superchargers sold on eBay etc literally do nothing. They cannot provide boost due to their design and really don't have much power at all as a fan.
Forced induction into a 4.0L will result in poor fuel economy without tuning.
THIS.
They're a scam.
Electric SuperChargers Mythbusted - YouTube
On a side note I will mention at least the OP was making fun of the Civic guy with the e-turbo...so not all is lost here
11-06-2015, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
The Mighty Car Mods tested those and lost horsepower.
11-07-2015, 12:13 AM
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Ok guys. I didn't really think it through all that much and didn't do much more research than watch that Mighty Car Mods vid on it. And I just started taking a physics class and I'm in high school (senior) but my physics teacher hasn't gotten nearly that far into physics yet. He does this thing in which he will teach something and I'll get it but then start teaching shortcuts or tricks or something and then I don't understand what I need to do anymore. I will admit I should've done A LOT more research before posting so optimistically about my idea. But thanks everyone for all the very straight forward info you guys gave me 
11-07-2015, 12:23 AM
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Well here's one that's more realistic and not as much "no concept of the laws of physics" than the last idea. What about using floor registers as hood vents? The vent would be facing the back of the car so the air comes through the grill and out the vents without the direction of air being changed for the vents. A heat escape basically. And here's an example of a floor register with a lever that can open and close it (in the case of being a hood vent, having the register open would be for driving and having it closed would be for when it's raining and I'm parked so the rain doesn't get into the engine compartment and cause rust or various other issues. 
I know this vent has vents facing two different ways but I'd get one with vents going in one direction and in the vertical direction.
>Back of car<
____
|____|
|____|
|____|
>front of car<
^^^^ *slits would be facing the direction arrows are pointing)
I know this vent has vents facing two different ways but I'd get one with vents going in one direction and in the vertical direction.>Back of car<
____
|____|
|____|
|____|
>front of car<
^^^^ *slits would be facing the direction arrows are pointing)
11-07-2015, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LiamLikeNeeson
Well here's one that's more realistic and not as much "no concept of the laws of physics" than the last idea. What about using floor registers as hood vents? The vent would be facing the back of the car so the air comes through the grill and out the vents without the direction of air being changed for the vents. A heat escape basically. And here's an example of a floor register with a lever that can open and close it (in the case of being a hood vent, having the register open would be for driving and having it closed would be for when it's raining and I'm parked so the rain doesn't get into the engine compartment and cause rust or various other issues. Attachment 278726 I know this vent has vents facing two different ways but I'd get one with vents going in one direction and in the vertical direction.
>Back of car<
____
|____|
|____|
|____|
>front of car<
^^^^ *slits would be facing the direction arrows are pointing)
>Back of car<
____
|____|
|____|
|____|
>front of car<
^^^^ *slits would be facing the direction arrows are pointing)
11-07-2015, 05:59 AM
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Well here's one that's more realistic and not as much "no concept of the laws of physics" than the last idea. What about using floor registers as hood vents? The vent would be facing the back of the car so the air comes through the grill and out the vents without the direction of air being changed for the vents. A heat escape basically. And here's an example of a floor register with a lever that can open and close it (in the case of being a hood vent, having the register open would be for driving and having it closed would be for when it's raining and I'm parked so the rain doesn't get into the engine compartment and cause rust or various other issues. Attachment 278726 I know this vent has vents facing two different ways but I'd get one with vents going in one direction and in the vertical direction.
>Back of car<
____
|____|
|____|
|____|
>front of car<
^^^^ *slits would be facing the direction arrows are pointing)
>Back of car<
____
|____|
|____|
|____|
>front of car<
^^^^ *slits would be facing the direction arrows are pointing)
So, I'm going to say something here...and try not to sound too harsh doing so, if I come across as an a-hole, it's really not my intention.
This thread just smacks of bad ideas. You're young, and excited about modding your jeep, that's cool. But I highly suggest instead of trying out new and "different" ideas, and trying to re-invent the wheel, that you actually slow down, take the time to learn about your vehicle, and about how things work in the first place. So far, everything that's been posted here, has been talked about on the site before. And none of those threads ended well, either, LOL
Start reading old threads. As many as you can, start with OEM tech. Start doing all the maintenance yourself. When you have questions, post. Google stuff. Read some more. Then start reading up on modified. Google more. There are a lot of senior members here with years of experience, who can not only answer your questions, but explain to you how and why it works.
Home heating vents belong in your HOME, LOL...don't use lumber for suspension, and don't build poo pipe bumpers. Learn how to do it right.
*steps off soap box
11-07-2015, 07:08 AM
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All ideas start off as crazy. "You can't do that, the Earth is flat!". Keep thinking outside the box, sooner or later something good can indeed come from it. But if you never do then it never will. "The only dumb question is the one you never ask". Where have I heard this before?
Shameless Nonconformity is your right. You used the right term with "E-Turbo" (Turbine), Turbine fan compressor designs are the reason Jet aircrafts can fly. In fact, Turbocharger compressors have been adapted to make small hobby Turbine Jet engines.
This topic makes me look forward to a session with a 3d printer.
P.S. The reason a desk fan makes you feel cooler is because the human body creates an insulated layer of heated air around it's self to help retain heat. A fan simply blows this heated insulation layer away from your skin allowing the real ambient temp to reach the skin making you feel slightly cooler. It is not applying cool, it is removing heat.
Shameless Nonconformity is your right. You used the right term with "E-Turbo" (Turbine), Turbine fan compressor designs are the reason Jet aircrafts can fly. In fact, Turbocharger compressors have been adapted to make small hobby Turbine Jet engines.
This topic makes me look forward to a session with a 3d printer.
P.S. The reason a desk fan makes you feel cooler is because the human body creates an insulated layer of heated air around it's self to help retain heat. A fan simply blows this heated insulation layer away from your skin allowing the real ambient temp to reach the skin making you feel slightly cooler. It is not applying cool, it is removing heat.
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11-07-2015, 08:30 AM
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I agree, however, you need to have a basic idea of how something works in the first place, you need to start with a good base knowledge of something before you can improve on it or change it. So my advice is be a sponge. Soak up knowledge, then take what you've learned and try to improve. That's all.
11-07-2015, 08:51 AM
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I agree, however, you need to have a basic idea of how something works in the first place, you need to start with a good base knowledge of something before you can improve on it or change it. So my advice is be a sponge. Soak up knowledge, then take what you've learned and try to improve. That's all.
And I agree with this also, But we should never limit our scope and vision of possibilities based on how crazy an idea sounds to others. I have been surprised so many times now from folks that had limited knowledge about the basics I can't even count them. I think at some point vision can sometimes actually be hindered by traditional thoughts, methods and practices.
We would still be in the stone ages if we had never thought outside of "common known knowledge and understanding". Right?
