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Old 04-02-2012, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by XJ-92
tell him that hes thinking of the other jeeps (wrangler) these dont tip easy unless you try to. the wranglers tip easy and arent safe when turning fast. even though i love both of them and want to add a wrangler to my collection.
Wranglers Don't tip easy, The Jeeps that are plauged by that issue are the old narrow track CJ's the widetrack CJ's and all wranglers are rather stable if not just as stable as an XJ
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Originally Posted by DualPurposeXJ
YES!
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if cherokees rolled so easy, I don't think they would have been approved for use by so many police agencies
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Originally Posted by mtbfreak612
So I'm getting my first car soon and i really want to get a cherokee sport and my mom is all for it, but my dad believes anything he hears and his friends who "knows everything" says jeeps tip easily when driving just on the roads. Now my dad doesn't want me to get one, so what should i tell/show him to show him they don't.
Anything can be rolled over, if you're dumb enough. I saw a guy flip a Corvette over on a mountain road once upon a time.

This was made all the more irritating because I had to extract him - the rear end was already catching fire, and there was no way on Gawd's green Earth they could get there in time to do the job.

The car didn't blow up, but it was burning merrily by the time FD could get there to do anything about it...
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Originally Posted by mtbfreak612
So I'm getting my first car soon and i really want to get a cherokee sport and my mom is all for it, but my dad believes anything he hears and his friends who "knows everything" says jeeps tip easily when driving just on the roads. Now my dad doesn't want me to get one, so what should i tell/show him to show him they don't.
My cousin "tipped" his 2011 Volvo S80 at 150 on the highway and did a barrel roll down the medium....

Does that now mean Volvos tip easy?

Unless you drive like an idiot, they dont.

Show him this thread by the way...
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Originally Posted by DualPurposeXJ
Ya ****in auto correct... * an I drove it like I stole it*
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Originally Posted by 98xj_john
I ran 8.5" an 33I an drove like I stills it all day never had sway bars an nvr close to rolling!!!
Are you trying to say that a cherokee with 8.5in and no swaybars is hard to rollover? Or just patting yourself in the back for being a good driver..

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stupid people and accidents can make any car flip.. a young girl here ran 1 tire off the road and flipped her chevy cavalier ... so every single vehicle on the road "flips easy" given the right circumstances. if you drive safe and not stupid and learn defensive driving maneuvers it can all be avoided. tell you dad to put an exo cage on it if hes so worried hehehe
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Both =] I had clayton coils an 8rear leafs so was stiff as hell
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the stupid driver theory is correct, ive flipped a 95hp mazda protege. And yes, I did just call myself a stupid driver
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I got t boned by a full size Mitsubishi Montero Sport at 40 mph and it didn't flip, witnesses said it almost tipped but It didn't. Goes a long way to show you how safe a Cherokee is.
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We could post pics and times this and that happened for five years and it still doesn't mean that a cherokee is hard to roll. The fact is , its easier to roll than almost any car that is not an SUV. Just because you take sharp turns and your lifted cherokee didn't flip it doesn't make it safe, it just means you know how to drive it. A story of a guy who flipped his Cavalier doesn't make the XJ harder to roll than Cavaliers all of the sudden. On the other hand if you see a rolled XJ it doesn't automatically mean that : "oh its an XJ, they tend to flip". You have people here that drive their xj's lifted 10 inches with no swaybars and don't flip and then on the first page you have a YOutube video of a guy flipping his stock XJ. Now what? You couldn't roll a Camry doing that. Its an SUV, Its flippable, there is a warning label on the visor that says its at a greater risk of a rollover. http://youtu.be/Uhd-8m7l5DQ http://youtu.be/130OVZcMEcA

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Originally Posted by helmut
We could post pics and times this and that happened for five years and it still doesn't mean that a cherokee is hard to roll. The fact is , its easier to roll than almost any car that is not an SUV. Just because you take sharp turns and your lifted cherokee didn't flip it doesn't make it safe, it just means you know how to drive it. A story of a guy who flipped his Cavalier doesn't make the XJ harder to roll than Cavaliers all of the sudden. On the other hand if you see a rolled XJ it doesn't automatically mean that : "oh its an XJ, they tend to flip". You have people here that drive their xj's lifted 10 inches with no swaybars and don't flip and then on the first page you have a YOutube video of a guy flipping his stock XJ. Now what? You couldn't roll a Camry doing that. Its an SUV, Its flippable, there is a warning label on the visor that says its at a greater risk of a rollover. http://youtu.be/Uhd-8m7l5DQ http://youtu.be/130OVZcMEcA
My Cherokee is as tall as a dodge caliber or jeep patriot. You could argue that I have a higher center of gravity but I have hundreds of pounds of weight down low(t case, etc) while they have more weight up top(thicker a/b/c/d pillars for crash testing and structual rigidity) while I have a thin aluminum roof that is 2 mm thick with some insulation on it and 1-2 inch thin pillars. Also the Cherokee is one of the safest vehicles out there under 3,000 lbs.... It has 4-5 feet of crumple zone up front... Also In a head on crash the bumper will override smaller cars and make you more likely to survive. Plus it's heighth means that if an suv or truck t bones you then your head wont hit their bumper. It' occupant compartment holds up in rollovers much better then some "other" BOF suv's like the Rodeo and Blazer. Try reading Ralph Nader's "Unsafe at any Speed", he talks specifically about how safe the Cherokee is.

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Originally Posted by XJeep99Classic
My Cherokee is as tall as a dodge caliber or jeep patriot. You could argue that I have a higher center of gravity but I have hundreds of pounds of weight down low(t case, etc) while they have more weight up top(thicker a/b/c/d pillars for crash testing and structual rigidity) while I have a thin aluminum roof that is 2 mm thick with some insulation on it and 1-2 inch thin pillars. Also the Cherokee is one of the safest vehicles out there under 3,000 lbs.... It has 4-5 feet of crumple zone up front... Also In a head on crash the bumper will override smaller cars and make you more likely to survive. Plus it's heighth means that if an suv or truck t bones you then your head wont hit their bumper. It' occupant compartment holds up in rollovers much better then some "other" BOF suv's like the Rodeo and Blazer. Try reading Ralph Nader's "Unsafe at any Speed", he talks specifically about how safe the Cherokee is.
1. Porsche Cayenne Turbo and Grand Cherokee SRT8 are also as tall as the XJ. Do you think the rollover risk is the same?
2. This thread is about possibility of a rollover. I dont know about other safety concerns. I never said anything about crumple zones , pillars and such.
3.Your tcase and other weight is way higher than the guts of a caliber that sits only a few inches off the ground.
4. His book was published in 1965 so I dont know how he could specifically be talking about my XJ being super safe by today standards.

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Tipping vehicles are due to:
A) speed
B)loss of common sense
C)alcohol
D) that off camber hill was way too steep.


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