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Old 04-04-2013, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kirknd4spd

I break the bead with my Hi Lift, and use tire spoons to pop the tires off and on. Been doing it that way for years, you get quick at it after youve done it enough.
I'm gonna Google it when I get off work but do you have a link or write up if how to do that? I'd love to be able to do it myself!
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Originally Posted by Red82
I'm gonna Google it when I get off work but do you have a link or write up if how to do that? I'd love to be able to do it myself!
I'll try to explain it the best I can. First thing to do is take the air out of the tires, best way is to pull the core out of the valve stem. Once the air is out, you have to break the beads loose. How I do this is I lay the tire and wheel down at the front of my Jeep. Then put the Hi Lift on top of the tire, with the base as close to the wheel as possible, right up against it, without being on the wheel itself. Then start jacking up the Jeep with the base of the jack on the tire, until the bead breaks loose. Then flip the tire over and break the other bead the same way. Then, lay the tire and wheel on the ground, with the outside of the wheel facing up. Spray WD40 around the bead of the tire (soapy water works too, I just like using WD40 or PB Blaster). Put one tire spoon between the tire and wheel, so the lip of the spoon catches under the bead of the tire, step on the tire on the opposite side of where you put the spoon in, and pull the spoon back to pull the bead of the tire over the wheel, and hold that spoon there. Then put a second tire spoon in beside the first one, a few inches over, and pull it back. This should get enough of the tire over the wheel that you can pull both spoons out now. Then take one of the spoons, and just work your way around until that side of the tire is off the wheel. Now stand the tire up, and spray WD40 around the inside of the other bead, so it will come off the wheel easier. Take both tire spoons and put them through from the side that was on the ground, between the bead of the tire and wheel, a few inches apart from one another. This is the tricky part to explain. Hold both tire spoons, one in each hand, and stand to the back side of the wheel (with your legs spread apart so the wheel wont hit you). Then pull back, like to make the tire and wheel fall toward you, and before it hits the ground, jerk the tire spoons the other direction. It might take a few tries, but it should pop the wheel out of the tire, leaving the wheel on the ground right in front of you.

Now you're ready to mount the new tire on the wheel. Make sure the outside of the wheel is facing up (it should be after popping it out of the old tire). Spray WD40 around the bead of the tire, on the side you want to the inside. Then take the tire and put it over the wheel at an angle, and you can usually kinda jump on it with your knees and get the inside bead on the wheel pretty easy. This is where you pour bbs in if you want to balance it that way (use the chart I posted earlier to determine how many bbs you need). Then start working the outside bead on with a tire spoon. Then put the core back in the valve stem, and air it up. Repeat for the other tires.

If you have trouble getting the beads to seat and get the tire to air up, there are a couple easy options. You can put a ratchet strap around the tread of the tire, and tighten it down, then try airing it up again. Take the strap off once the beads seat, then finish airing up.
You can also sometimes pick the tire up and drop it down where air is leaking around the bead of the tire (with the tire standing up, and dropping the tread down on the ground), then try airing it up again, and sometimes that works.
If neither of those work, spray a little starting fluid inside the tire, with a little trail of it on the sidewall out to the tread (like a fuse for a firecracker). Then put air to the tire (and dont take the air line off until there is some air in the tire), and light the starting fluid on fire. The resulting explosion will seat the beads of the tire on the wheel, but wont work if you get scared and take the air hose off as soon as it explodes. This works every time for me, the other two ways dont always work. I assume no responsibility for burns or injury from attempting this, be very careful if you use this method of seating the beads. This should only be used as a last resort, and really, I rarely have to do this, but when I have done it, I've never been injured. Burned the hair off my arm once or twice though. Unless you have fairly skinny tires on fairly wide wheels, or tire and wheel widths very close to being the same, the beads usually seat fine by just putting air in the tires once mounted.
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^^^^ Couldn't have said it better Kirknd4spd.You covered it all, right down to the same dynabead chart I use. Outstanding.
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I mounted my Baja claws by hand with a friend and now I'm gonna go back and balance em with a bb. Thanks for the info kirknd4spd!
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I'd never mount my own tires, ****s hard as hell if you're just using a few screwdrivers. Lol. But i guess if i was paying some of the high prices i've been seeing you guys post i might just try it.
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
I'd never mount my own tires, ****s hard as hell if you're just using a few screwdrivers. Lol. But i guess if i was paying some of the high prices i've been seeing you guys post i might just try it.
The friend who helped (and basically did them himself besides me giving a hand) is a 20yr experienced tire tech mounting and balancing bus tires here for greyhound. He's knows his stuff.

My rims are brand new and he didn't put a single scratch in em. Granted I was scared to death he would. We didn't even balance them bc one:we have no machines here that will do a 33,the machines here are way to big and two:he did a good job and they only start to shake slightly at 50+ so that's why I'm going to do the bb trick.
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Originally Posted by NewJerseyXJ609
The friend who helped (and basically did them himself besides me giving a hand) is a 20yr experienced tire tech mounting and balancing bus tires here for greyhound. He's knows his stuff.

My rims are brand new and he didn't put a single scratch in em. Granted I was scared to death he would. We didn't even balance them bc one:we have no machines here that will do a 33,the machines here are way to big and two:he did a good job and they only start to shake slightly at 50+ so that's why I'm going to do the bb trick.
I plan on doing the BB's myself, i've actually got them sitting at the house waiting to be put in but i'm too lazy to do it. I've put a few tires on by hand and it wasnt fun, but with the right tools i'm sure its not too bad. All i ever use is two big effin' screwdrivers. Lol
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
I plan on doing the BB's myself, i've actually got them sitting at the house waiting to be put in but i'm too lazy to do it. I've put a few tires on by hand and it wasnt fun, but with the right tools i'm sure its not too bad. All i ever use is two big effin' screwdrivers. Lol
My buddy is amazing with tires. He put low pro tires on for my Honda too. They had like no sidewall. Those rims and tires were expensive too and he knocked it out. He uses a combo of pb blaster, a prospectors hammer Lmao, and pry bars.

Payment for mounting four tires you ask? : 30 pack of bud does it every time! Haha
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Originally Posted by NewJerseyXJ609
My buddy is amazing with tires. He put low pro tires on for my Honda too. They had like no sidewall. Those rims and tires were expensive too and he knocked it out. He uses a combo of pb blaster, a prospectors hammer Lmao, and pry bars.

Payment for mounting four tires you ask? : 30 pack of bud does it every time! Haha
Lol and its worth it just to not see the looks you get when you tell the tire place you dont want your tires balanced, but you'd like to throw some BB's in the tire while they're not inflated.
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Originally Posted by muffinman
^^^^ Couldn't have said it better Kirknd4spd.You covered it all, right down to the same dynabead chart I use. Outstanding.
^this...

two tire irons from HF-~$10
one large container of airsoft bb's~$15
never having to pay anyone to mount and balance your tires again=priceless
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