93XJeeper

I wouldn't worry about but I would have at least put more screws than what it seems that u put in. And also, I would have used rivets instead.

andrewmp6

In a wreck those screws are gonna pull through the floor.And your seat is bolted to that seat riser your gonna get someone hurt badly.Enjoy your lawsuit when it happens.

nujeepguy

man! give it up, get a book on codependency. everybody here does things as they see fit. no mods on mine like some of the major stuff some do and what they do is none of my business!!
any wreck in any car is a potential problem.
i appreciate all advice, then decide what to do.
right now the seat is just as solid as new and much better than when i got it. odds are half the old jeeps out there are still like mine was last month, rusting slowly away like the pix the op posted. mine was not that bad, so relax.
you could suggest that everyone here pull their seats and carpet like i did the 3rd day i owned this jeep,

andrewmp6

There is a wrong way and right way to fix things.Doing it it wrong can get people hurt,There is a reason the floors are welded in every car,Its called body flex anything screwed down will pop loose in time.And that seat riser is welded in so the seat don't move in a wreck.A screw will ever be a strong as a weld and like it said it will pull through the floor in a wreck.

93XJeeper

When I bought my jeep, the PO had patched the floor pans before me with little square sheets held down with screws. They'd been in there so long that they started to get rust holes in em. When I finnally redid the Floors myself, the POs screwed down plates, although rusted, where held down pretty dang tight and I had just as much fun removing it as I did removing the spotwelded panels from the frame. Of course, screws aren't as strong as welds but keep in mind, the back two seat bolts are still firmly planted in the frame and as long as he's got plenty of screws holding down the front panel, he should be good to go.

Martlor13

Dude your argument for what you did is wrong? Its not as TOUGH as you say. If your method was a good one, more people would do it and be defending you. Except it's not good and no one here likes it? It may seem like you did a solid job, but in reality it isn't. In a wreck of course there are many things that can happen. You just added another to the list. You attempted the job but skipped out on doing it correct.

nujeepguy

nobody seems to read that EVERYTHING IS BOLTED SOLIDLY TO THE FRAME WITH BOLTS AND NUTS. THE seatbelt is stock and solid and is an important factor, the seat aint going anywhere.its back bolts are stock.
i think we should consider that ANYTIME we move away from factory specs, like in wheel and tire size and inflation pressure and lifting or any mods to the suspension we are setting up for legal trouble in event of a wreck. handling is covered at lenghth in the books and mods are cautioned against. my jeep is stock and two small pieces of sheet metal bolted to the frame is getting people upset, people who probably have made major mods to theirs. im just trying to preserve it and stop rust! in a wreck a lifted modded frame/steering wheels tires would be looked at closely by insurance people.
i think modded jeeps look great but its not for me. im stock down to tire pressure,and many might criticize me for not lifting and adding big rubber, and fender flares.'

hey im just here to learn, help where i can and have fun!

btw i had a pinto that splashed water in my face! till i fixed it not as good as my jeep!!
so you are right and i am wrong. can we leave it now and move on.

Martlor13

Just one more

Yeah you bolted it. Cool. That's not the proper way to do it. It SEEMS like it's solid. But it's really NOT. And your point about all the guys here with mods on top of mods. I would say about 95% of members on this forum take the time to do things the right way. They take the time to minimize the risk of their mods. Not throw something together and call it good. The mods done on this forum that I see are always done right. If they aren't, the posters usually get called out for it and rightfully so. jeepers outside this forum may skip steps, but the people on here came to realize that you never should. Do it right. Don't have money? Don't do the mods then until you do. Don't have the skills such as welding like in your case? Take the time to LEARN. You had the perfect opportunity to try it. Even if you didn't want to, a local shop could have easily done it right instead of bolting it down. Didn't want to pay to have it done right? Well that goes right back to either saving or learning. In conclusion, you skipped steps in properly doing a repair and are getting called on it. Seems fair to me and all the others that have called you on it seem to agree as well.

Now let's end it before the thread gets shut down and the OP has to start another.

andrewmp6

Unless you used grade 8 bolts and 3 inch washers to spread out the load its not a safe repair you done.

93XJeeper

My rear ZJ seats are bolted in. Does that make em unsafe. I just followed a write up that everybody else also follows. Lol

nujeepguy

! yeah,in a crash you might rip the seat belts out and the seats will prob just,,,sit there!

Martlor13

Except it's bolted to a nice, welded in floor. Very TOUGH them welds be. Very proper.

But

andrewmp6

What we are talking he repaired his rusted out floor and seat riser.Insted of welding it all in he screwed it in even screwed the seat riser to the floor pan.The seat riser is a piece of metal thats welded to the floor the front seats bolt to that.And he screwed his in place.

andrewmp6

Do you know how strong a seat belt really is?By law a seat belt strap has to hold 5,000lbs of tensile strength,The steel they make most cars out of has a tensile strength of about 3,000lbs or less.

nujeepguy

progress? how is it going? too bad i didnt see yours sooner , i could have had 2 made. mine was $30 they could do another if you didnt get one.