Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar vs BF Goodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM2
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Didnt really care for the Grabber while shopping on line....until I seen them up close.....They are tough....Red letters where sharp but Iam green also...didnt want the chrismas tree look...lol
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Wow! This is a completely different conversation than i am used to.
My first set (not the ones that were stolen) but the ones I actually drove on lasted less than 10k miles. My sig, w/photos will explain all.
Went through 3 new sets after the stolen ones for a total of 42k miles before i sold her.
The Wranglers on the Jeep I bought last September might last me through this winter as well, and they were at 1/2 tread when i bought it! Unless I go for the Silent Armor version.
Kinda used to buying tires every year....
My first set (not the ones that were stolen) but the ones I actually drove on lasted less than 10k miles. My sig, w/photos will explain all.
Went through 3 new sets after the stolen ones for a total of 42k miles before i sold her.
The Wranglers on the Jeep I bought last September might last me through this winter as well, and they were at 1/2 tread when i bought it! Unless I go for the Silent Armor version.
Kinda used to buying tires every year....
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Originally Posted by jeepaholic
Didnt really care for the Grabber while shopping on line....until I seen them up close.....They are tough....Red letters where sharp but Iam green also...didnt want the chrismas tree look...lol
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Wow! This is a completely different conversation than i am used to.
My first set (not the ones that were stolen) but the ones I actually drove on lasted less than 10k miles. My sig, w/photos will explain all.
Went through 3 new sets after the stolen ones for a total of 42k miles before i sold her.
The Wranglers on the Jeep I bought last September might last me through this winter as well, and they were at 1/2 tread when i bought it! Unless I go for the Silent Armor version.
Kinda used to buying tires every year....
My first set (not the ones that were stolen) but the ones I actually drove on lasted less than 10k miles. My sig, w/photos will explain all.
Went through 3 new sets after the stolen ones for a total of 42k miles before i sold her.
The Wranglers on the Jeep I bought last September might last me through this winter as well, and they were at 1/2 tread when i bought it! Unless I go for the Silent Armor version.
Kinda used to buying tires every year....
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The grabbers have good grip but wear quick and have a weaker sidewall. I really really recommend Cooper discoverer stt. I was weary to buy them since they're sold at sears but I did and got 25k out of them then gave em to my cuz and he got another 15k. they really impressed me offroad. There were just as good as the km1's. I have never had km2's I no they wear bad and so do the mtr's just because they're offroad tires. long story short, the Cooper stt's are the best compromise I've seen on and offroad better than bfg a/t onroad and way better offroad!
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Only problem with the STTs are the lack of three ply sidewalls. If you do lots of rock trails the sidewalls are a little on the flimsy side, know a couple of people that tore them. The STTs flex really good though and are amazing for wheeling in deep snow. ( read 2.5 plus feet not just 6 inches )
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Only problem with the STTs are the lack of three ply sidewalls. If you do lots of rock trails the sidewalls are a little on the flimsy side, know a couple of people that tore them. The STTs flex really good though and are amazing for wheeling in deep snow. ( read 2.5 plus feet not just 6 inches )
Thats probably why I like them not much rock crawling here In Maine and we got 180" of snowfall this past year
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I would take the MT/R over the KM2 any day of the week, my buddy runs a stacked '11 JK Rubi with the KM2's and my little old $3k XJ with the MT/R does way better than his JK.
That and I've ran the MT/R for about 15k so far and they are still 80-90% there, can hardly even tell they're used.
That and I've ran the MT/R for about 15k so far and they are still 80-90% there, can hardly even tell they're used.
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i have the same dilemma right now. but in 32's.. Goodyear MT?/R Kevlars or BFG MT ?
Seems there are mixed emotions. I am lookin for a more rugged look and will be in mud and on pavement, and no, I dont want ATs. lol
Any suggestions?? Sucks but I need to pull the trigger tomorrow morn or my great deals are gone... (Tire guy I know is going on vacation )
Seems there are mixed emotions. I am lookin for a more rugged look and will be in mud and on pavement, and no, I dont want ATs. lol
Any suggestions?? Sucks but I need to pull the trigger tomorrow morn or my great deals are gone... (Tire guy I know is going on vacation )
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I'll be buying tires again in 6 months or longer I hope. My friend sold me his 33x10.50x15 bfg ats for $80 plus brand new spare that matches. I've also been looking at the duratrac too. I go wheeling in the mountains so it's a lot or rocks and dirt. Also try to stay away from mud
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I have ZERO experience with KM2s and very limited experience with MTRs (They are brand new with a few hundred miles on them) so what I am going to say came from months of reading and summarizing from a ton of forums.
First and foremost the overwhelming majority of posts I read regarding ANY tire seemed to be made by people patting themselves on the back for their new purchase - meaning they got them, wheeled them once and decided they were an authority on the tire.
Digging further I found the following that I *believe* is reasonably accurate regarding this comparison - note that this isn't from MY experience, just a summary from 8000 pages worth of forum posts. This info has come largely from people who have burned through more than 1 set of each (ie: rode them more than 300 miles before posting):
First and foremost the overwhelming majority of posts I read regarding ANY tire seemed to be made by people patting themselves on the back for their new purchase - meaning they got them, wheeled them once and decided they were an authority on the tire.
Digging further I found the following that I *believe* is reasonably accurate regarding this comparison - note that this isn't from MY experience, just a summary from 8000 pages worth of forum posts. This info has come largely from people who have burned through more than 1 set of each (ie: rode them more than 300 miles before posting):
- KM2s get a little better wear on the road (And possibly the best overall out of the MT offerings) but the MTRs are a reasonably close second - and bear in mind it seems that 15,000 miles seems like a good run on a set of MTs
- MTRs seem to have better grip than the KM2s on the rocks
- Both do equally well in the mud
- Both have very similar road manners and noise levels (My MTRs are surprisingly quiet compared to the Kumhos and Mud Kings I am used to)
- The Kevlar isn't all it is cracked up to be - most people with real experience on them say it doesn't make a huge difference
- The MTR can be difficult to balance - in my PERSONAL experience I believe this largely comes down to equipment and knowledge. Walmart tried to tell me I needed a pound of weight on each wheel. I took them to a place that does truck tires (as in tractor trailers) and they took between 2 and 6 oz to balance.
- People also seem to REALLY like the Hankooks and I saw very few poor reviews. In the end they are probably as good as the KM2 and MTR
- People also like the Generals but not as much as the KM2s and MTRs. They also don't seem to get the road life the BFG and Goodyear get
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Thanks Drew
I would offer one more observation on the KM2s. When an XJ parked next to my XJ running the old KMs, with both rigs running the same tire pressure, the KM2s have a flexier side wall, which I think would boil down to a larger footprint than the older version and better terrain conformity.
I would offer one more observation on the KM2s. When an XJ parked next to my XJ running the old KMs, with both rigs running the same tire pressure, the KM2s have a flexier side wall, which I think would boil down to a larger footprint than the older version and better terrain conformity.
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I have ZERO experience with KM2s and very limited experience with MTRs (They are brand new with a few hundred miles on them) so what I am going to say came from months of reading and summarizing from a ton of forums.
First and foremost the overwhelming majority of posts I read regarding ANY tire seemed to be made by people patting themselves on the back for their new purchase - meaning they got them, wheeled them once and decided they were an authority on the tire.
Digging further I found the following that I *believe* is reasonably accurate regarding this comparison - note that this isn't from MY experience, just a summary from 8000 pages worth of forum posts. This info has come largely from people who have burned through more than 1 set of each (ie: rode them more than 300 miles before posting):
First and foremost the overwhelming majority of posts I read regarding ANY tire seemed to be made by people patting themselves on the back for their new purchase - meaning they got them, wheeled them once and decided they were an authority on the tire.
Digging further I found the following that I *believe* is reasonably accurate regarding this comparison - note that this isn't from MY experience, just a summary from 8000 pages worth of forum posts. This info has come largely from people who have burned through more than 1 set of each (ie: rode them more than 300 miles before posting):
- KM2s get a little better wear on the road (And possibly the best overall out of the MT offerings) but the MTRs are a reasonably close second - and bear in mind it seems that 15,000 miles seems like a good run on a set of MTs
- MTRs seem to have better grip than the KM2s on the rocks
- Both do equally well in the mud
- Both have very similar road manners and noise levels (My MTRs are surprisingly quiet compared to the Kumhos and Mud Kings I am used to)
- The Kevlar isn't all it is cracked up to be - most people with real experience on them say it doesn't make a huge difference
- The MTR can be difficult to balance - in my PERSONAL experience I believe this largely comes down to equipment and knowledge. Walmart tried to tell me I needed a pound of weight on each wheel. I took them to a place that does truck tires (as in tractor trailers) and they took between 2 and 6 oz to balance.
- People also seem to REALLY like the Hankooks and I saw very few poor reviews. In the end they are probably as good as the KM2 and MTR
- People also like the Generals but not as much as the KM2s and MTRs. They also don't seem to get the road life the BFG and Goodyear get
Thanks Drew
I would offer one more observation on the KM2s. When an XJ parked next to my XJ running the old KMs, with both rigs running the same tire pressure, the KM2s have a flexier side wall, which I think would boil down to a larger footprint than the older version and better terrain conformity.
I would offer one more observation on the KM2s. When an XJ parked next to my XJ running the old KMs, with both rigs running the same tire pressure, the KM2s have a flexier side wall, which I think would boil down to a larger footprint than the older version and better terrain conformity.
I am still in decision mode, but leaning towards the Goodyears...