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Old 07-17-2012, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
So 2 wheels take as much to turn as 4 wheels? So if this is true then the traction must all be the same?


I hope you live close because I will rent you a stock fj so you can try to prove your point.

Good job trying to back up just one of your claims. and with that, it is clear you do not know how a differential works.

everything moves just as fast when you have 100% traction to both wheels. It takes just as much power to spin either way. When one tire is hanging in the air and just spinning, while the other tire is firmly planted and not getting any power to it, then obviously the engine isnt working as hard, as it cant propel the vehicle if the tire is only touching air.
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NAY - Air Iz supeR traction

...this thread sucks
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
I told you I will back up everything I claim. But getting video will take a while. I will get some. I am starting to wonder though if you guys actually wheel. I know Mr white does.
ahh, the classic "I wonder if you actually wheel" comeback

nope, don't wheel, no experience whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
ahh, the classic "I wonder if you actually wheel" comeback

nope, don't wheel, no experience whatsoever.

heres my last 3 rigs.







pfffft.... pebbles...
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Here's a video of my rig from three weeks ago:


I've wheeled from coast to coast with my last Cherokee, pretty much every terrain you can think of.

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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
Here's a video of my rug from three weeks ago:

Adam STM - YouTube
if you had a better suspension and no lockers you would have made it.
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Cool rigs!

All that experience and you think a stock fj could hang through a rock section without tipping just because all four wheels are turning?

Come on now.....
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One of my best friends' mom has a loaded FJ. We've wheeled it, it's stock, it can damn well hold its own and for sure will shame a stock xj.
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i'll put this as simply as possible...

you're comparing apples to oranges - does a well tuned suspension assist your abilities though rough sections? Yes. Does a locker to the same thing for a rig without one? Yes. So are they the same? HELL NO.

You can only go so far on suspension alone - if two opposite wheels are in the air you're not going anywhere without a locker to transfer the power to the wheels that have traction. Period.

You can argue this all day long, but we have enough experienced guys who have been wheeling a HELL of a lot longer than you here that will continue to tell you you're full of crap...
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Originally Posted by dukie564
i'll put this as simply as possible...

you're comparing apples to oranges - does a well tuned suspension assist your abilities though rough sections? Yes. Does a locker to the same thing for a rig without one? Yes. So are they the same? HELL NO.

You can only go so far on suspension alone - if two opposite wheels are in the air you're not going anywhere without a locker to transfer the power to the wheels that have traction. Period.

You can argue this all day long, but we have enough experienced guys who have been wheeling a HELL of a lot longer than you here that will continue to tell you you're full of crap...

So I can't continue forward with one front and one rear wheel off the ground? Is this what your sticking too?

Just going on my small rock pile out front we had to hold back the Fj from flipping.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
So I can't continue forward with one front and one rear wheel off the ground? Is this what your sticking too?
No, do you not understand the transfer of power through an open diff? Power will be sent to the wheel with the least traction which is, tada, the one in the air.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
So I can't continue forward with one front and one rear wheel off the ground? Is this what your sticking too?
yup. that's what i'm sticking to.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
So I can't continue forward with one front and one rear wheel off the ground? Is this what your sticking too?
With open diffs you're stuck like that. This is a fact, for any vehicle with open diffs and no traction aids.
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You just won't give up, will you?
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