made to pay for services not recieved
#16
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From: Sucka Free East Bay Cali
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Wrong. Every dealership I have ever worked at paid their mechanics flat rate. The warranty time required to do warranty repairs pay by tenths of an hour, which is a flat rate scale. If a mechanic at a dealership screws something up he can get back flagged for the time. It's not easy to be a dealership mechanic, it is feast or famine most of the time.
#17
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From: Over here...
Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8
Anytime a scan tool is hooked up to your vehicle, you're charged. If you choose to get your vehicle fixed, this fee is usually waived. If you knew the amount of people who choose to use a mechanic as their own diagnostic tool, never expecting them to fix it, but simply tell them what's wrong with their vehicle so they can personally fix it, you'd understand these charges. You're paying for someones knowledge. Want to bet the dealership offered to fix what was wrong with the OPs vehicle, but they denied the repair?
#18
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Joined: Mar 2013
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From: lake stevens, wa
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
as someone who is paid to work on vehicles, you're paying if i'm working on your car. your car having issues doesnt magically give me my time back. will i offer up advice to try and help you out? sure, because i'm not a dick. but i'm also not working for unicef.
#19
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From: Sucka Free East Bay Cali
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Anytime a scan tool is hooked up to your vehicle, you're charged. If you choose to get your vehicle fixed, this fee is usually waived. If you knew the amount of people who choose to use a mechanic as their own diagnostic tool, never expecting them to fix it, but simply tell them what's wrong with their vehicle so they can personally fix it, you'd understand these charges. You're paying for someones knowledge. Want to bet the dealership offered to fix what was wrong with the OPs vehicle, but they denied the repair?
#21
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From: lake stevens, wa
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
#22
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From: Kentucky
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
#23
False. I have worked at a couple dealerships and have always worked flat rate. The only people that work hourly are the lube kids and the ones that park cars. If I am working on your car, I expect to get paid.
#24
Had a very bad experience at the dealership today. I had purchased 2 key fobs for my Cherokee as the originals were lost. After waiting about 20 minutes, I was told my module wouldn't communicate and they couldn't program the fobs. Then they wanted the full price anyway! Even though they didn't complete the job!
I will not mention the names or dealership pending a complaint call I have into Chrysler.
I will not mention the names or dealership pending a complaint call I have into Chrysler.
Did they tell you what it will take to fix it? I would expect to get paid if I was working on your car but if the fobs couldn't be programmed I would at least diag it and let you know why so you didn't feel ripped off. What kind of car?
#25
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From: Sucka Free East Bay Cali
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
#28
whoa fellas.. lets look at this reasonably..
Ok.. so the OP purchased 2 fobs.. and there was a problem with his vehicle that prevented it from communicating.. this took 20 minutes..
The shop should have offered to diagnose and repair the issue.. if not.. the OP owes a half hour labor rate... and he could possibly return the fobs to the dealership if they are still in "new" condition... IF he purchased them through the parts department
technically the shop used half a man hour to TRY to fix it.. it is not their fault that there is something preventing them from performing the work... when working on flat rate.. this is just the way the business works..
Now lets say the OP has a good relationship with the shop... they COULD wave the labor rate to keep the customer.. but.. this rarely happens unless its a big ticket customer
This is the way the world works.. if you have to take your vehicle to a certified professional because you could not fix a particular issue.. then he should be paid a fair rate for the job that he performed.. he started the work with good intentions to complete the repair.. but due to circumstances beyond his control with YOUR vehicle.. he could not.. So is it his fault? Should he not be able to make his wages?
I completely understand the OP's frustration... but in the auto repair business... this is how it is.. you have to see it from their side as well..
Ok.. so the OP purchased 2 fobs.. and there was a problem with his vehicle that prevented it from communicating.. this took 20 minutes..
The shop should have offered to diagnose and repair the issue.. if not.. the OP owes a half hour labor rate... and he could possibly return the fobs to the dealership if they are still in "new" condition... IF he purchased them through the parts department
technically the shop used half a man hour to TRY to fix it.. it is not their fault that there is something preventing them from performing the work... when working on flat rate.. this is just the way the business works..
Now lets say the OP has a good relationship with the shop... they COULD wave the labor rate to keep the customer.. but.. this rarely happens unless its a big ticket customer
This is the way the world works.. if you have to take your vehicle to a certified professional because you could not fix a particular issue.. then he should be paid a fair rate for the job that he performed.. he started the work with good intentions to complete the repair.. but due to circumstances beyond his control with YOUR vehicle.. he could not.. So is it his fault? Should he not be able to make his wages?
I completely understand the OP's frustration... but in the auto repair business... this is how it is.. you have to see it from their side as well..
#29
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From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Had a very bad experience at the dealership today. I had purchased 2 key fobs for my Cherokee as the originals were lost. After waiting about 20 minutes, I was told my module wouldn't communicate and they couldn't program the fobs. Then they wanted the full price anyway! Even though they didn't complete the job!
I will not mention the names or dealership pending a complaint call I have into Chrysler.
I will not mention the names or dealership pending a complaint call I have into Chrysler.
#30
its not the shops failure.. its the vehicles failure that prevented them from performing the work.. they tried!
If you asked me to replace your brake pads... and I started pulling off your tires and calipers.. and found out that your caliper was seized and that is what burned up your brake pads.. and informed you that the caliper was seized.. and it would cost a little extra to replace the caliper... but you didnt have the extra money... so i put it all back together for you because you couldn't afford the proper repair.. I would hand you back your parts.. and tell you that you owe me a half hour of labor only.. is that not fair?
You didnt ask me to diagnose WHY your brakes failed.. you just asked me to replace the pads and handed me the pads...
Its not MY FAULT that i couldnt finish the job.. its your fault for not being able to afford the FULL repair..
I should still be paid for the labor that I DID DO!
If you asked me to replace your brake pads... and I started pulling off your tires and calipers.. and found out that your caliper was seized and that is what burned up your brake pads.. and informed you that the caliper was seized.. and it would cost a little extra to replace the caliper... but you didnt have the extra money... so i put it all back together for you because you couldn't afford the proper repair.. I would hand you back your parts.. and tell you that you owe me a half hour of labor only.. is that not fair?
You didnt ask me to diagnose WHY your brakes failed.. you just asked me to replace the pads and handed me the pads...
Its not MY FAULT that i couldnt finish the job.. its your fault for not being able to afford the FULL repair..
I should still be paid for the labor that I DID DO!