Opinions on goodyear wrangler radials?
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I was thinking the same thing. Anyone who doesn't think reviews and polls are manipulated needs to dig deeper. A good current example would be the reviews on Amazon for Hillary's book, and the fact that the Better Business Bureau maintains an A-1 accredited business rating for certain corporations even through the whole time they are being spanked by Congress.
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There is so much paid for deceptive marketing practiced anymore that you have to go to places like Cherokee forums to get the real skinny on what's what.
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So, just to pour fuel on the fire as to how subjective assessments can be, here's the Walmart.com site showing this tire with over 200 reviews and an average rating of 4.4 out of 5.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-...5S-OWL/4404150
Can 200 Walmart shoppers be wrong? LOL!
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-...5S-OWL/4404150
Can 200 Walmart shoppers be wrong? LOL!
The Dynapro is a fantastic tire. This is what I run on mine, and I am a tire dealer. What people need to be aware of is that EVERY tire gets louder as they wear down. it's just the nature of the beast that you will start to get more slapping and block noise as a tread wears thinner. They handle much more responsive also, this is why when you put on a new set they feel a bit squirrely compared to the old set until you get used to them.
It's normal for all makes and models...
It's normal for all makes and models...
Let me just give another explanation so you guys don't think I'm hating on the wrangler for no reason haha
ok, so your typical mud terrain usually has big,aggressive, jagged type tread blocks with large voids in between to reduce the chance of mud building up. Well all terrains are the opposite. They are smaller tread blocks, with smaller voids. The tread blocks usually have sipimg leading to these voids to lead water and some mud towards them.
look at the tread on the wrangler. The tread blocks are larger then most all terrain tread blocks. They are also tightly compacted, like an all terrain is supposed to be, but there aren't many breaks in the tread because of the large blocks. The distance for water to travel out of the sipes to the voids is longer and there aren't as many tread voids. This is why they don't do well in rain or snow. There is more surface area in the tread then other all terrains. The large tread blocks dont help with traction off-road because there is less breaks in the tread to grab and get traction. The edges of tread blocks is where a tire usually grabs, but the big blocks and tight compaction on the wrangler don't allow flood traction. What they do allow is a longer lasting tire because the big blocks dont wear down easily and the edges of the tread don't start to round off as fast....the wrangler also seems to have a concave, where the tread sits higher right in the center.
now look at the khumo all terrain. A middle tier tire, that has Vakue for its price. The tread is still tightly compacted, but the tread blocks are smaller allowing for more breaks in the tread for grip and more tralead voids to dispel water.
ok, so your typical mud terrain usually has big,aggressive, jagged type tread blocks with large voids in between to reduce the chance of mud building up. Well all terrains are the opposite. They are smaller tread blocks, with smaller voids. The tread blocks usually have sipimg leading to these voids to lead water and some mud towards them.
look at the tread on the wrangler. The tread blocks are larger then most all terrain tread blocks. They are also tightly compacted, like an all terrain is supposed to be, but there aren't many breaks in the tread because of the large blocks. The distance for water to travel out of the sipes to the voids is longer and there aren't as many tread voids. This is why they don't do well in rain or snow. There is more surface area in the tread then other all terrains. The large tread blocks dont help with traction off-road because there is less breaks in the tread to grab and get traction. The edges of tread blocks is where a tire usually grabs, but the big blocks and tight compaction on the wrangler don't allow flood traction. What they do allow is a longer lasting tire because the big blocks dont wear down easily and the edges of the tread don't start to round off as fast....the wrangler also seems to have a concave, where the tread sits higher right in the center.
now look at the khumo all terrain. A middle tier tire, that has Vakue for its price. The tread is still tightly compacted, but the tread blocks are smaller allowing for more breaks in the tread for grip and more tralead voids to dispel water.
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The problem with Michelin is that in warmer drier climates they are dried out and falling apart long before you get your mileage out of them. Then Michelin is so arrogant they blame the environment and will not make them good under warranty because they do not cover "exposure".
And the cost of a set of Michelins is Europe's answer to keeping more cars off the road. lol
And the cost of a set of Michelins is Europe's answer to keeping more cars off the road. lol
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"if there is a defect in workmanship and materials during the life of the original usable tread, or six (6) years from date of purchase (whichever comes first), your tire may be replaced on a pro rata basis under this warranty. After six (6) years or the wear of the original usable tread, whichever occurs first, all warranties, expressed or implied, expire."
" WHAT IS NOT COVERED...
This warranty does not cover tires damaged due to misuse, abuse or accident such as:–Road hazards (e.g., cuts, snags, bruises, impact damage or punctures);–Incorrect mounting of the tire, tire/wheel imbalance or improper repair;–Misapplication, improper maintenance, racing, underinflation, overinflationor other abuse;–Uneven or rapid wear which is caused by mechanical irregularity in thevehicle such as wheel misalignment (a measured tread difference of2/32nds of an inch or more across the face of the tread on the same tire);– Accident, fire, chemical corrosion, tire alteration or vandalism;– Flat spotting caused by improper storage or brakelock; – The addition of liquid, solid or gaseous materials other than air, nitrogen or carbon dioxide (for example, waterbase sealers or balancing substances); – Minor cosmetic ozone or weather cracking;– Use of MICHELIN® Self-Supporting Zero Pressure (ZP) tires without a properly operating low inflation warning system.– Use of MICHELIN tires that is inconsistent with the safety and/or maintenance information provided in your owner’s manual."
That is how arrogant they are...They are even saying that if you shine your tires up they will not be covered. Even more unrealistic arrogance about "exposure"...
"STORAGE...
Tires contain materials to protect their outer surfaces from ozone and weather checking. As the tire rolls and flexes, those materials continually migrate to the surface, replenishing this protection throughout the normal use of the tire. Consequently, when tires sit outdoors, unused for long periods of time (a month or more), their surfaces become dry and more susceptible to ozone and weather checking, and the casing becomes susceptible to flat spotting. For this reason, tires should always be stored in a cool, dry, clean, indoor environment. If storage is for one month or more, eliminate the weight from the tires by raising the vehicle or by removing the tires from the vehicle. Failure to store tires in accordance with these instructions could result in damage to your tires or premature aging of the tires and sudden tire failure. When tires are stored, be sure they are placed away from sources of heat and ozone such as hot pipes and electric generators. Be sure that surfaces on which tires are stored are clean and free from grease, gasoline or other substances which could deteriorate the rubber. Tires exposed to these materials during storage or driving could be subject to sudden failure.One reason why your spare tire should be included in the tire rotation schedule is that temperatures in a vehicle’s closed trunk, especially in sunny geographical areas, can become high enough so that, over a sustained period, they can cause small cracks or other changes to the properties of a tire stored in the trunk. An accumulation of such changes can weaken the tire and, especially if the tire is not kept properly inflated, make it unsafe to use when it is needed."
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Overpriced inferior product peddled by an arrogant manufacturer. But people still buy them because they are a status symbol. "Look at me, I'm rich enough to afford Michelins" and they are being played into thinking that the more you pay the better the tire. which in the case of Michelin is very very untrue.
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Actually what kills Michelin is exposure to water. All other manufacturers now seal the steel plies with a layer of impermeable compound to keep them from rusting when water soaks through the outer casing rubber. Michelin still refuses to spend this extra couple bucks and seal these plies as they should be. So they literally rust apart inside from being exposed to water. Hence the comment they make in what I shared below about using (water based compounds) on their tires. This is why Michelin is the only tire made that has ever been known to have what they call a "zipper" sidewall blowout problem with their all steel tires. The cables get rusty and weak long before their tread and service life are up.
Overpriced inferior product peddled by an arrogant manufacturer. But people still buy them because they are a status symbol. "Look at me, I'm rich enough to afford Michelins" and they are being played into thinking that the more you pay the better the tire. which in the case of Michelin is very very untrue.
That was the Firestone tires on the Explorer.
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Ford and Bridgestone/Firestone made a mutual agreement to actually remove a ply to make them ride better when they should have just educated their customers that a Ford Explorer is not a Cadillac and is not designed to ride like a Cadillac. They let their unrealistic customers dictate the market trend and it cost them both dearly.
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need some wisdom here.... i found this: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/wtd...390549607.html
Does it look legit?
Does it look legit?
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need some wisdom here.... i found this: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/wtd...390549607.html
Does it look legit?
Does it look legit?