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Old 09-06-2011, 01:43 PM
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Without front sway bars it was weird driving specially goof around turns and the highway little to much body roll for me
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Originally Posted by Bustedknuckle
As for the front, IMHO, the engineers who R&D'd the truck put it there for a reason, just like every other vehicle.
Yes and that reason is to give enough spring rate to limit body roll without having to increase the static spring rate of the actual springs.

Swaybars are used on street vehicles as a compromise between safety/performance and comfort.

And I always laugh when someone makes a comment like "The engineers designed it that way so it must be good". That comment is just absurd. ALL car manufactures have so many half-assed designs it isn't funny. Chrysler in particular is notorious for "WTF?" designs.

A vehicle design is a balance between practicality, safety, style, comfort and function all stuffed into the smallest price tag possible.
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
They didn't R&D the rear for a reason??
Body roll is much more pronounced in the front of a front engine vehicle. That is where all the weight is AND where the roll is initiated (since that is where the steering wheels are).

Rear swaybars don't do a ton on most vehicles that have them.
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Originally Posted by Bustedknuckle
We can all agree the rear is scrap. As for the front, IMHO, the engineers who R&D'd the truck put it there for a reason, just like every other vehicle. Offroad, of course, flex it out and loose the sway bar. But on the pavement, I always reconnect. Just force of habit, and I'd rather be safe then sorry.
X2. It was designed that way for a reason (just for you drew). As far as the slow down and be careful in a corner, its not always a controlled environment. I personally say better safe than sorry. But hey, don't take my word for it. Ask "Screwd up 6" (member), he had to make a sudden lane change and is now parting out his '94 due to rolling it. He had broke a disco and was waiting for his new ones to come in.
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Originally Posted by xj wheeler
It was designed that way for a reason
Yes and I told you what that reason was - ride comfort. They could have omitted it and increased the spring rates but then people would have complained about a harsh ride.
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Originally Posted by Evil Drew M
Yes and I told you what that reason was - ride comfort. They could have omitted it and increased the spring rates but then people would have complained about a harsh ride.
So, your saying its the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by xj wheeler
So, your saying its the best of both worlds.
No I am saying that it is a compromise that can be at least partially mitigated by running higher spring rates.
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Anybody can wiki "sway bar" and find out what it is for. I think the bottom line is if you have the stock suspension on the vehicle it would be a bad idea to remove part of that suspension. The rear sway bar did not come on all XJs like the front did. If you are removing the front sway bar I hope you have done something to help compensate.

In my opinion if you are using your vehicle on the street it is a good idea to use it. I am one of the few that can actually give experience with and without the sway bar on a stock suspension and let me tell you...it wasn't pretty when that link broke. If you are going to be changing out all the suspension then the stock sway bar isn't going to work as it's engineer's intended it to. It might help, it might not. However notice many many lift kits have extended links included so one can keep the sway bar.
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
They didn't R&D the rear for a reason??
Yes they certainly did. But are you not in agreeance that a leaf sprung axle is more stable at a highway speed then an coil sprung one? Not by personal experience, just geometry.
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its pretty much gonna handle like an old cadilac when you are on the road...turns are ok just as long as you dont too fast....sudden braking kinda sucks....i had mine out for 3 years...some people say yes, some people say no...bottom line its your jeep do what you want with it take it and drive it for a week and see if its something you like....you could always put it back
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
They didn't R&D the rear for a reason??
Could ba there incase you load the rear to the ceiling with a heavy load. That would certainly add to the body roll from the rear.
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Originally Posted by No4x4Yet
Could ba there incase you load the rear to the ceiling with a heavy load. That would certainly add to the body roll from the rear.
It would also lower the rear center of gravity.

Lower CG = lower roll couple percentage.
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Again, as has already been pointed out... it's not even a matter of personal preference. How much body roll you have without the sway bar is all going to depend on how stiff your springs are. Taller springs are usually stiffer to help handle the higher center of gravity. Now if you have 3" springs with a 2.5" spacer on top of them then you are just going to have alot of body roll without it. But with my 4.5" springs, the swaybar just didn't seem to make that much of a difference. And I've been in a couple of fast reflex situations to avoid accidents cuz people here in columbus drive like idiots. Haven't rolled it. Again, it's a matter of what springs you have, and common sense. Would I prefer to have quick disconnects? Of course... but since I don't have those yet and my jeep handles fine without the swaybar, I'm not gonna bother having to break out the tools every time I want a little flex off road. If you have softer springs, it's going to be a different story for you.
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