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Old 11-21-2012, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by smeltmaster1
i don't have bumpsotp extensions in the rear and for the front idk if they are bc i bought it lifted but figuring all the stuff i found wrong with it they are stock. my shocks are 15.5 to 24.5 but i want to go to 16.5 to 28.5 like my rears bc i am looking in the future to get long arms and also i need to charge out my coils rustys sag that will be happening over the winter i hope
Ok, on your front, your current shocks should be fine. If you have stock short arms. IF you have aftermarket short arms, or drop brackets, then the 16.5 shocks will be better. But remember you will need to extend your bump stops to run the larger shocks. Also your brake lines will need extended.

Your current front shocks need about 1.5 " of extra bump to keep them from bottoming out. Hopefully you already have it.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Ok, on your front, your current shocks should be fine. If you have stock short arms. IF you have aftermarket short arms, or drop brackets, then the 16.5 shocks will be better. But remember you will need to extend your bump stops to run the larger shocks. Also your brake lines will need extended.

Your current front shocks need about 1.5 " of extra bump to keep them from bottoming out. Hopefully you already have it.
i think my front brakes were already extended for some reason bc i don't see a problem with them when i am up in the pic they have about 6-7 inches left. and for the bump stops i am in need of them bc i am upgrading to 33'3 and have my fenders cut already bc my passenger side 32 was rubbing so i don't really kill my fenders yet. plus long arms my come with my tax return so idk
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
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I don't think so.

But if If I break, I will then go bigger.

according to all of my re-search. the ford 9" is the only option for 38's in the rear but its too wide. I will not go 60's on account that many of my trails are not wide enough. And they are a tank of an axle. Definitely no.

Toy axle no better than Chr
dana 44 no better
8.8 no better

Just easier to build

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You can always get a different back spacing to narrow it up
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Originally Posted by Atmos
You can always get a different back spacing to narrow it up
Yes you are right on that. I thought about it.

Truthfully on down the road I probably will. But as you know I will be fighting it the whole way
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
I don't think so.

But if If I break, I will then go bigger.

according to all of my re-search. the ford 9" is the only option for 38's in the rear but its too wide. I will not go 60's on account that many of my trails are not wide enough. And they are a tank of an axle. Definitely no.

Toy axle no better than Chr
dana 44 no better
8.8 no better

Just easier to build
there are 57" wide ford 9's out there.


and i bet to differ, the 8.8 is much stronger than the 8.25

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Originally Posted by N20jeep

there are 57" wide ford 9's out there.

and i bet to differ, the 8.8 is much stronger than the 8.25
That's what I was thinking... Plus you get disc brakes with more and better aftermarket support with the 8.8...
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
there are 57" wide ford 9's out there.


and i bet to differ, the 8.8 is much stronger than the 8.25
There are more parts available with the 8.8. And if you get a newer exploder you get the discs.

So yea they are better. But strength stock is fairly close I believe.

If I break my 8.25 then I will most likely make the switch. I lose 1 5/8" under the axles though. Which is 3in of tire. basically half of what I gain from 38's. A lot to consider. So at that point why not just go 35's have the same gc under the axles as 38's with an 8.8. Could keep the stock axles, could get gears, fenders could stay somewhat stock. A lot less work.

Damn! Then there is the poser aspect of it. I was fantasizing about a flat fendered xj with 38's riding low on black solid bead locks.

Oh the drama! LOL

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I may have just talked myself out of 38's LOL
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Originally Posted by smeltmaster1
here is a pic on about a 22 inch rock in front of my house the passenger side is almost tucked all the way about another inch or so before i would of been hitting anything

Attachment 156601
you should really look into some shackle relocation brackets..
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Originally Posted by holycaveman

I don't think so.

But if If I break, I will then go bigger.

according to all of my re-search. the ford 9" is the only option for 38's in the rear but its too wide. I will not go 60's on account that many of my trails are not wide enough. And they are a tank of an axle. Definitely no.

Toy axle no better than Chr
dana 44 no better
8.8 no better

Just easier to build
That's why you have the axle narrowed. Also a Dana 44 can withstand 38s also
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
I don't think so.

But if If I break, I will then go bigger.

according to all of my re-search. the ford 9" is the only option for 38's in the rear but its too wide. I will not go 60's on account that many of my trails are not wide enough. And they are a tank of an axle. Definitely no.

Toy axle no better than Chr
dana 44 no better
8.8 no better

Just easier to build

Everyone will throw tomatoes at me, but.....
How about a Rock Jock 60?
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...jrockjock.aspx


You can get 'em in XJ length
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Originally Posted by fallenknight308
Everyone will throw tomatoes at me, but.....
How about a Rock Jock 60?
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...jrockjock.aspx


You can get 'em in XJ length
I just followed that link and built my front end, just the front. 7995
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Originally Posted by zombie jeep101
You always need nor flex young padawan
6" lift and I have 10" travel front, 12" rear. More than enough. Welcome to the dark side. Also, this thread is silly. Don't have to dream about a low rider xj on 38s, it's been done. Chromos 44 and a super 8.8 combo I'd rock 37s before getting uncomfortable, big 38s idk. Gotta be careful.
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Originally Posted by djlarroc
you should really look into some shackle relocation brackets..
well i had 2 inch blocks in the back for a while but i took them out bc of the ride quality and bought the 2.5 shackles and added RE shocks in the back and it is an amazing difference in ride and in flex. the flex part on here really don't show it but on the trail it is great so i may down thr road but i am good for now. i need to level out the front it is about an inch lower then the back
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