Short arm flex critics
#257
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You act like your wanting this to die away, but you keep throwing gas on the fire to keep it going?
I dont understand why you complain about conflict on these threads, but CLEARLY have an intent to start a commotion over something stupid when you make it. You can make your short arms and run open differentials all you like, just keep your opinions on why you think they're the bee's knees to yourself.
It's a common sociological law that when you break the mores and folkways of the majority that you will meet conflict. In this case the conflict is not running what you feel works, but instead trying to explain to others why an upgrade to a superior system is unneeded. I would say not a single person here has a problem with you running the setup you have or how you wheel it, however people get their feathers ruffled up when you post information that may not be necessarily true for those who are trying to learn how they should lift their xj to see. Your not the only one to do something different by a long shot, believe me. When I got my lift kit, (despite all the negative comments associated with it) I decided to get a 3 in Rocky Road Budget Boost with stacked 3" spacers, 1.5" blocks, and a 1.5" shackle. There were alot of opinions on this lift, but mine was that it worked great and did what i needed it to. However my first reaction was not to make a thread explaining why my kit is just as good as a full 3" kit. This is because my lift may work as well in some aspects, but in many other aspects it is not up to par. And the reality is, i've been running this 3" lift for 3 1/2 years and never had a single argument over it.. you know why? Because I do a little something called avoiding conflict.
Basically what im saying is if your making these threads to argue, more power to you your doing a great job at making something to argue over. If your not, learn to keep some of your opinions to yourself if you want to avoid conflict.
I've said my peace.
I dont understand why you complain about conflict on these threads, but CLEARLY have an intent to start a commotion over something stupid when you make it. You can make your short arms and run open differentials all you like, just keep your opinions on why you think they're the bee's knees to yourself.
It's a common sociological law that when you break the mores and folkways of the majority that you will meet conflict. In this case the conflict is not running what you feel works, but instead trying to explain to others why an upgrade to a superior system is unneeded. I would say not a single person here has a problem with you running the setup you have or how you wheel it, however people get their feathers ruffled up when you post information that may not be necessarily true for those who are trying to learn how they should lift their xj to see. Your not the only one to do something different by a long shot, believe me. When I got my lift kit, (despite all the negative comments associated with it) I decided to get a 3 in Rocky Road Budget Boost with stacked 3" spacers, 1.5" blocks, and a 1.5" shackle. There were alot of opinions on this lift, but mine was that it worked great and did what i needed it to. However my first reaction was not to make a thread explaining why my kit is just as good as a full 3" kit. This is because my lift may work as well in some aspects, but in many other aspects it is not up to par. And the reality is, i've been running this 3" lift for 3 1/2 years and never had a single argument over it.. you know why? Because I do a little something called avoiding conflict.
Basically what im saying is if your making these threads to argue, more power to you your doing a great job at making something to argue over. If your not, learn to keep some of your opinions to yourself if you want to avoid conflict.
I've said my peace.
#258
I have definately noticed this. They are threads meant to stir the pot, and he succeeds lol
#259
How a Differential Works and Types of Differentials - YouTube
Alright these two videos will give you a basic concept of differentials. There is a lot that the videos do not tell you. But I will search and try and find one.
Alright these two videos will give you a basic concept of differentials. There is a lot that the videos do not tell you. But I will search and try and find one.
#260
You act like your wanting this to die away, but you keep throwing gas on the fire to keep it going?
I dont understand why you complain about conflict on these threads, but CLEARLY have an intent to start a commotion over something stupid when you make it. You can make your short arms and run open differentials all you like, just keep your opinions on why you think they're the bee's knees to yourself.
It's a common sociological law that when you break the mores and folkways of the majority that you will meet conflict. In this case the conflict is not running what you feel works, but instead trying to explain to others why an upgrade to a superior system is unneeded. I would say not a single person here has a problem with you running the setup you have or how you wheel it, however people get their feathers ruffled up when you post information that may not be necessarily true for those who are trying to learn how they should lift their xj to see. Your not the only one to do something different by a long shot, believe me. When I got my lift kit, (despite all the negative comments associated with it) I decided to get a 3 in Rocky Road Budget Boost with stacked 3" spacers, 1.5" blocks, and a 1.5" shackle. There were alot of opinions on this lift, but mine was that it worked great and did what i needed it to. However my first reaction was not to make a thread explaining why my kit is just as good as a full 3" kit. This is because my lift may work as well in some aspects, but in many other aspects it is not up to par. And the reality is, i've been running this 3" lift for 3 1/2 years and never had a single argument over it.. you know why? Because I do a little something called avoiding conflict.
Basically what im saying is if your making these threads to argue, more power to you your doing a great job at making something to argue over. If your not, learn to keep some of your opinions to yourself if you want to avoid conflict.
I've said my peace.
I dont understand why you complain about conflict on these threads, but CLEARLY have an intent to start a commotion over something stupid when you make it. You can make your short arms and run open differentials all you like, just keep your opinions on why you think they're the bee's knees to yourself.
It's a common sociological law that when you break the mores and folkways of the majority that you will meet conflict. In this case the conflict is not running what you feel works, but instead trying to explain to others why an upgrade to a superior system is unneeded. I would say not a single person here has a problem with you running the setup you have or how you wheel it, however people get their feathers ruffled up when you post information that may not be necessarily true for those who are trying to learn how they should lift their xj to see. Your not the only one to do something different by a long shot, believe me. When I got my lift kit, (despite all the negative comments associated with it) I decided to get a 3 in Rocky Road Budget Boost with stacked 3" spacers, 1.5" blocks, and a 1.5" shackle. There were alot of opinions on this lift, but mine was that it worked great and did what i needed it to. However my first reaction was not to make a thread explaining why my kit is just as good as a full 3" kit. This is because my lift may work as well in some aspects, but in many other aspects it is not up to par. And the reality is, i've been running this 3" lift for 3 1/2 years and never had a single argument over it.. you know why? Because I do a little something called avoiding conflict.
Basically what im saying is if your making these threads to argue, more power to you your doing a great job at making something to argue over. If your not, learn to keep some of your opinions to yourself if you want to avoid conflict.
I've said my peace.
There is a great deal to learn with these videos. IF you want to call the videos gas, then fine. But learning exactly how an open diff works is important I believe for some. Especially when there is a disagreement.
And obviously there are many who do NOT understand fully how an open differential works.
You are correct. I probably should not speak of these things at all However if one has the mind to learn, the information is there.
Its a shame really. We should be agreeing on these things instead of calling each other out.
My whole deal from the get go was how you can have fun and wheel without spending all the dough people do on the upgrades, and lockers, etc...
Many people here have limited funds. This is who I was posting for. And as soon as I did I get a group of guys telling me this and that and how you have to have lockers, long arms, bla, bla bla.
It is just not true. You can wheel pretty well with a well set up truck and open diffs. Thats all I meant from the start. I may have said it boldly, and obviously was misunderstood. Then it just exploded from there
#261
This is a false statement for those who are watching. My suggestion is to find out for yourself. There are pluses and minuses to both.
Last edited by holycaveman; 11-23-2012 at 11:01 AM.
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#263
Originally Posted by holycaveman
This is a false statement for those who are watching. My suggestion is to find out for yourself. There are pluses and minuses to both.
Do us all a favor and leave cf so no one has to deal with you anymore.
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#265
Since you dont understand that a locker will out perform an open dif everytime here you go.
Are you serious. You started it by arguing with false information.
#266
#267
Originally Posted by holycaveman
Are you serious. You started it by arguing with false information.
Well have fun trolling around in other threads. Click the refresh button again.
#268
While there is a lot of great information on the internet. There is also a lot of biased opinions.
I myself use the internet for information and help. Especially when you are having a problem with a certain vehicle and you find someone with a similar problem. The internet saves time and money. A great help for certain.
However as we all know we all have opinions on what works and what does not. Take oil for instance, or tires. People will argue to all ends on these things. So with these types of threads you really need to just learn and or pick and choose for yourself. Because it really comes down to personal experience and opinions.
And how can I or someone else argue about what you in particular need? We can't, we can only give you our opinion on the matter but in the end its the individual who has to decide.
And that about sums it up for me. You fellows can make your own choices. But there is no good reason to argue about it.
I myself use the internet for information and help. Especially when you are having a problem with a certain vehicle and you find someone with a similar problem. The internet saves time and money. A great help for certain.
However as we all know we all have opinions on what works and what does not. Take oil for instance, or tires. People will argue to all ends on these things. So with these types of threads you really need to just learn and or pick and choose for yourself. Because it really comes down to personal experience and opinions.
And how can I or someone else argue about what you in particular need? We can't, we can only give you our opinion on the matter but in the end its the individual who has to decide.
And that about sums it up for me. You fellows can make your own choices. But there is no good reason to argue about it.
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This thread: I said dumb **** on the internet and now im butthurt and defensive and people keep picking on me when in reality im wrong and still arguing.
Want it to die? Stop replying to everyone and let it die.
Want it to die? Stop replying to everyone and let it die.
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