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Old 10-23-2012, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
The rti as you say is ghey. It does not take into consideration track width. Which makes a huge difference. But its fun to mess around with it. And by using it you can easily gauge improvements.

Sure Long arms are better off road. Never was an issue here. But its what you actually need that I always consider. Hydro steering is better also. But I don't need it. Not having long arms has not hindered my off roading as of yet.

For me the largest problem when tackling trails is my unwillingness to do body damage. Nothing else has really stopped me from any obstacles.

You know as well as I that you need to flex enough. Not overkill and not at all. A ton of flex does not mean you can go anywhere. And sometimes it gets you into trouble. There are times when hanging a wheel can help a lot.

The only reason for me to get long arms at the moment is if I decide to make my daily driver a trail rig. Then I would consider it.
Not disagreeing. Just posting for the benefit of others.
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I've always heard short arms ride worse on the road than long arms are you inferring that it might make you a more risk taking trail driver?
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and what is your track width and wheel base?
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Originally Posted by CrawlinPepper
I've always heard short arms ride worse on the road than long arms are you inferring that it might make you a more risk taking trail driver?
They do. Long arms were the best on road and offroad upgrade I've done.
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ALL I said was of course long arms are optimal off road. thats it.

track width is 63–64 in wb is 100.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
ALL I said was of course long arms are optimal off road. thats it.

track width is 63–64 in wb is 100.
You shortened it?
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Originally Posted by holycaveman

The only reason for me to get long arms at the moment is if I decide to make my daily driver a trail rig. Then I would consider it.
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ALL I said was of course long arms are optimal off road. thats it.
The way you said it sounds like you were avoiding longarms for street use for some reason.
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
The way you said it sounds like you were avoiding longarms for street use for some reason.
No, i am avoiding long arms because of the time and expense.

Its not a must right now.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
ALL I said was of course long arms are optimal off road. thats it.

track width is 63–64 in wb is 100.
track width is skinny
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
You shortened it?
No, I just went off of the factory specs. When you put a ruler to it, it measures only a hundred.
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Originally Posted by stang65
track width is skinny

Yes sir. Exactly what I wanted. The only drawback so far is body damage. Which is a big draw back.

If its low, narrow and flexes easy. It moves along well off road, with little hang ups compared to wider rigs. Makes up for the smallish tires.
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Its about a foot narrower than my brothers wrangler with 35's.

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Reminds my of my go-kart from when I was a kid.
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
Reminds my of my go-kart from when I was a kid.
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yeah mine has a 74" track width on 33x12.50s length is 100.5-101 will recheck after new lift. mine will get around 2" wider and another 1" taller when i go full width as is right now i and to be wide stance and low to the ground
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