No... just no

 

I don't think the south is the only place where trucks are always best...Anywhere that isn't a city I guess...most of my friends drive trucks on like 4-10" lifts (not kidding. There's a kid with a cummins on like 4" as a daily driver, and a ram 1500 on a literal 10" when he feels like it) and anyone who has a jeep lifts it to the sky to compete with them. You need a big jeep to go through the ruts a 10" lifted ram leaves in the mud haha

 

Around here there actually seems to be the opposite mentality. Lots of snobs in brand new lifted JK's off the lot with 37 Nittos or Toyos, AEV wheels, snorkels and Warn winches that aren't actually hooked up, and hi-lifts that are so clean I could eat off of them that think they're God's gift to off-roading and they're better than everyone else.

 

I love it when the pavement princess mall crawler or big gay mud trucks talk **** about my XJ. Makes me laugh so hard because I know they would just fall over 40ft into a trail. "Do you even go muddin bruh?" No retard its a rock crawler

 

The funny thing is that our rigs are just as capable in the mud as most street-driven lifted trucks. I know a lot of you guys hate mud, but I'm a fan of all terrain except pavement.

 

Yeah we don't have a lot of open trails. I think maine is 97%(?) privately owned land...And mudding doesn't take too much space, and we get it free when all the snow melts in spring! Really though I want a full size truck so I can throw on huge tires without worrying as much about beefing everything up on it first, and using it for mud. All you ever hear about is "Ey, who's goin down to the Harpswell Mud Runs this weekend?" (Our school has kids from 4 towns in it and Harpswell is the town where kids buy their own lobster boats by like age 15 and make a couple hundred dollars in a day so by the time they get their licenses they can buy diesel trucks with stacks and whatnot) I think some kids go mudding behind the dump, too. We don't have much off roaring available here...There are like 3 off reading places open to ohvs (non-atv 4x4s) in the state, and one got shut down because the state didn't want the guy "running a business" even though it was by $10 donation to get in for a day or 2...

 

This is why we love mud so much. This is my literal driveway parking spot after a December heat wave melted the snow (48 degrees!!!) I get to rock myself out or use 4wd to leave my house every day if I leave when it's not still frozen from the night before!!

So you can only imagine what a purpose-built mud pit looks like right now

 

My XJ is always muddy, unless the rain has washed it clean ("You don't wash a Jeep, you just dunk it once in awhile").

People say, "Ah, you've been in a little mud!"

And I tell 'em, "Y'know how most cars nowadays have a GPS? Well, my Jeep has a Mud Finder!"

 

Mud that I encounter on the trail and road salt are pressure washed off immediately. Mud the day of or day after a trail run, road salt the first day above freezing after a snowstorm.
Not a fan of crap falling in my face, mud grinding and destroying parts, or rust.

 

I'm with you on this one. I mean, obviously we don't have snow in Florida but we definitely have a lot of mud. After my last little detour into the mud, I parked the jeep over top of a sprinkler and let it rinse all that crap off. Mud is horrible on rubber - deteriorates it bad. The one winter I spent up north in Maryland, I put my truck through the automatic wash with the undercarriage rinse probably twice a week.... I was so paranoid about rust I kept that thing cleaned off. Stuff falling in your face while you're working on it is just salt in the wounds - no pun intended.

 

Coworker is shopping Craigslist for an old diesel beater. I keep harassing him cause he currently has two Crown Vics.
"I'm just saying, real men drive pickups. 30 years of country music can't be wrong."
"Wait a minute, I thought you were a Jeep guy?!"
"Man does not live by bread alone"

 

Hmmm…Does your co-worker do THIS in his Crown Vics?
(It's a video of a Crown Vic on Hell's Revenge at Moab!)

I love my Jeep, and I always say that there are things that only a Jeep can do, but this video kinda proves that "It's not the arrow, it's the Indian."

 

Jeep?! I dont need no stinking Jeep! Where's my Crown Vic?

Edit: That must be the "Trail Rated" Vic.

 

I just showed that to him a few weeks ago lol. He has two retired cop cars: one white, one black

 

I've owned three cherokees, two GCs, and driven jeeps since.. 2000? I've been wheeling for over 5 years with the same Cherokee, mostly with the same group of people. I've had the following comments since year one:

"It's gonna taco."

"That last romp through the mud popped the stitch welds, it won't last the year" (or the variant "it won't make it back to camp".

"Don't put much into it and only bolt stuff on, don't weld. It's good for now, but when it falls apart in two years you can just roll the parts over into a new one"

"why do you want to do THAT? it's not going to last long enough to be worth it"

and various other 'unibody' comments. Then I nurse them back to camp or lend them welding rod and battery after they snap their frame off here and there on stuff I already passed.

Oh, yeah, I forgot my favorite back when I started wheeling: "well, you have to have 35" tires minimum just to get over the step down the trail from there just to see it. Then you have to have full lockers to climb the easy line." A month later I showed him pictures of my unlifted, bone stock DD with bald stock tires climbing that line.