towing + lift +/- rear sway bar = ?
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towing + lift +/- rear sway bar = ?
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I'm considering obtaining a 3" lift on my 2000 classic because I have observed that when it does get wheeled it drags bottom due to my friends' ruts, think of it like an uneven grader. My problem is that I tow with it much more frequently than it gets off the pavement. I wanted to ask any experienced individuals if removing the rear sway bar has a noticeably negative impact on stability while towing (only a few times have I towed anything over 3500 lbs) or if there is a company that makes quick disconnects for the rear, I haven't found anything yet. I don't consider this tech since I am still in the infancy of the information gathering stage and looking for advice/information, if I am wrong, I apologize.
Jon
I'm considering obtaining a 3" lift on my 2000 classic because I have observed that when it does get wheeled it drags bottom due to my friends' ruts, think of it like an uneven grader. My problem is that I tow with it much more frequently than it gets off the pavement. I wanted to ask any experienced individuals if removing the rear sway bar has a noticeably negative impact on stability while towing (only a few times have I towed anything over 3500 lbs) or if there is a company that makes quick disconnects for the rear, I haven't found anything yet. I don't consider this tech since I am still in the infancy of the information gathering stage and looking for advice/information, if I am wrong, I apologize.
Jon
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I've towed quite a bit with mine (a little under 3500 lbs) and I haven't had a rear sway bar for a few years now. The leaf springs alone give quite a bit of stability so I wouldn't worry about it at all.
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I have a 5 pack leaf spring pack in each side. No sway bar. I have tower a 3500 trailer with my 3,000lbs MJ on it, About 30 miles. Trust me, if I had a other option I wouldn't have done it. But nonetheless it did fine! It towed great!! I couldn't believe how well it towed! I know it was hard on the motor and transmission, but that's beside the point. Here's a pic actually!
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XJs don't need a sway bar over half the people on here don't run one front or rear
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Hey guys,
I'm considering obtaining a 3" lift on my 2000 classic because I have observed that when it does get wheeled it drags bottom due to my friends' ruts, think of it like an uneven grader. My problem is that I tow with it much more frequently than it gets off the pavement. I wanted to ask any experienced individuals if removing the rear sway bar has a noticeably negative impact on stability while towing (only a few times have I towed anything over 3500 lbs) or if there is a company that makes quick disconnects for the rear, I haven't found anything yet. I don't consider this tech since I am still in the infancy of the information gathering stage and looking for advice/information, if I am wrong, I apologize.
Jon
I'm considering obtaining a 3" lift on my 2000 classic because I have observed that when it does get wheeled it drags bottom due to my friends' ruts, think of it like an uneven grader. My problem is that I tow with it much more frequently than it gets off the pavement. I wanted to ask any experienced individuals if removing the rear sway bar has a noticeably negative impact on stability while towing (only a few times have I towed anything over 3500 lbs) or if there is a company that makes quick disconnects for the rear, I haven't found anything yet. I don't consider this tech since I am still in the infancy of the information gathering stage and looking for advice/information, if I am wrong, I apologize.
Jon
Are you an algebra whiz? I loved your title.
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Stiff leafs, balance your load properly, should be okay. The anti-sway bar helps deal with sway issues at high speed, if you can avoid that in the first place I wouldn't be too concerned.
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Thank you guys,
I appreciate the input and advice. @cruiser54 I am not an algebra whiz, that was the only way I could think of to get the general idea of the question into the title (my brain works in strange ways). @DigitalBman did you paint one to match the other or was it coincidence? For now the front sway bar is stuck on until I figure out how to remove a welded nut from the bolt while it is still in the uni-rail but no longer fixed in position (it is tight but I broke the weld when installing the IRO tow hook mount).
I appreciate the input and advice. @cruiser54 I am not an algebra whiz, that was the only way I could think of to get the general idea of the question into the title (my brain works in strange ways). @DigitalBman did you paint one to match the other or was it coincidence? For now the front sway bar is stuck on until I figure out how to remove a welded nut from the bolt while it is still in the uni-rail but no longer fixed in position (it is tight but I broke the weld when installing the IRO tow hook mount).
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Thank you guys,
I appreciate the input and advice. @cruiser54 I am not an algebra whiz, that was the only way I could think of to get the general idea of the question into the title (my brain works in strange ways). @DigitalBman did you paint one to match the other or was it coincidence? For now the front sway bar is stuck on until I figure out how to remove a welded nut from the bolt while it is still in the uni-rail but no longer fixed in position (it is tight but I broke the weld when installing the IRO tow hook mount).
I appreciate the input and advice. @cruiser54 I am not an algebra whiz, that was the only way I could think of to get the general idea of the question into the title (my brain works in strange ways). @DigitalBman did you paint one to match the other or was it coincidence? For now the front sway bar is stuck on until I figure out how to remove a welded nut from the bolt while it is still in the uni-rail but no longer fixed in position (it is tight but I broke the weld when installing the IRO tow hook mount).
I like the algebraic title. well done.
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I have heard from my buddy to tows a lot with his XJ that the rear sway bar makes a huge difference while he's towing.
As for me, I like running the front sway bar at all times unless I actually need the articulation. Turning corners with the quick disconnects taken off leads to sketchy amounts of body roll on turns.
Fact of the matter is, it's safer with them than without them. Safety first!
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I don't really care to start a front debate but I've gotta ask how weak your friend's rear springs are. If the STOCK rear sway bar makes THAT much of a difference IMHO his springs are far too soft for towing duty. I can bend the stock rear sway on my own. If he has an upgraded one, that's a different story.
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I have a 6.5 inch lift and tow stuff all the time. I don't have a rear sway bar but I don't take the front off unless I am going to need to (offroad). You never know when something is going to make you swerve and for me it is piece of mind. I have pulled pontoon boats, bass boats, rafts, other cars and a 6000lb Uhaul trailer with mine with no problems (the uhaul was a little rough pulling across a very slippery/windy Wyoming... A box pulling a box does not like 50mph gusts lol)
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There is a significant amount of body roll without them. Handling is improved nearly 3 fold with the sway bars installed.
I have heard from my buddy to tows a lot with his XJ that the rear sway bar makes a huge difference while he's towing.
As for me, I like running the front sway bar at all times unless I actually need the articulation. Turning corners with the quick disconnects taken off leads to sketchy amounts of body roll on turns.
Fact of the matter is, it's safer with them than without them. Safety first!
I have heard from my buddy to tows a lot with his XJ that the rear sway bar makes a huge difference while he's towing.
As for me, I like running the front sway bar at all times unless I actually need the articulation. Turning corners with the quick disconnects taken off leads to sketchy amounts of body roll on turns.
Fact of the matter is, it's safer with them than without them. Safety first!
Now as for the front sway bar that a different story that all depends on coil spring rate. Some springs are softer which will cause body roll and some coils r stiffer "Roughcountry coils" and will reduce body roll.
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