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#46
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From: Kentucky
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Lol. Wind chill isn't a temperature and can't freeze anything. It is how cold the wind feels.
" For inanimate objects, the effect of wind chill is to reduce any warmer objects to the ambient temperature more quickly. It cannot, however, reduce the temperature of these objects below the ambient temperature, no matter how great the wind velocity."
So if the temp is 0 and the wind chill is -30 the lowest that youll go is 0 but you'll just get there much quicker. It will feel colder but it isn't.
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/os/windchill/index.shtml
#47
Lol. Wind chill isn't a temperature and can't freeze anything. It is how cold the wind feels.
" For inanimate objects, the effect of wind chill is to reduce any warmer objects to the ambient temperature more quickly. It cannot, however, reduce the temperature of these objects below the ambient temperature, no matter how great the wind velocity."
So if the temp is 0 and the wind chill is -30 the lowest that youll go is 0 but you'll just get there much quicker. It will feel colder but it isn't.
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/os/windchill/index.shtml
" For inanimate objects, the effect of wind chill is to reduce any warmer objects to the ambient temperature more quickly. It cannot, however, reduce the temperature of these objects below the ambient temperature, no matter how great the wind velocity."
So if the temp is 0 and the wind chill is -30 the lowest that youll go is 0 but you'll just get there much quicker. It will feel colder but it isn't.
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/os/windchill/index.shtml
#48
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From: Franksville, Wi
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Where I'm going with this is that the AMC straight 6 (including our 4.0Ls) have a long reputation for increased piston slap when cold. Once they warm up, tolerances are closer to factory design. When cold, the pistons rattle around in the cylinders. Even if piston slap isn't audible (which these things did brand new in 1993-1994, by the way), it's pretty clear that a cold 4.0L does NOT have optimal clearances below operating temperature. It's not a good idea to apply a load like that.
I don't know the exact time it takes a piston to heat up but i can't imagine it would be that long with all the explosions happening in there. It'll slap for a bit and probably does on most cars but I can't imagine it lasts too long unless there's some serious maintenance issues or the engine is loaded with miles.
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From: Franksville, Wi
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Sounds like you need new coolant or you have too much water in the system. I'd definitely get a flush and new stuff put in. Coolant is good for -34 I think but too much water will dilute it and raise the freezing point.
#51
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I put two gallons of 50/50 antifreeze in it thinking i should be good,, well i didn't know they held 3.5 gallons. Back in the summer i flushed my coolant system out with water then put two gallons of 50/50 in it then the other 1.5 gallons was pure water. That was left in it when i flushed it. So the whole time i thought it was full of 50/50 but i was wrong.
#52
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From: Franksville, Wi
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
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I put two gallons of 50/50 antifreeze in it thinking i should be good,, well i didn't know they held 3.5 gallons. Back in the summer i flushed my coolant system out with water then put two gallons of 50/50 in it then the other 1.5 gallons was pure water. That was left in it when i flushed it. So the whole time i thought it was full of 50/50 but i was wrong.
Did your block crack when it froze?
#53
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Even tho your correct about the improper care. and when did i say that windchill WILL freeze antifreeze.????? I asked if windchill could freeze antifreeze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Franksville, Wi
Year: 1995
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Did your block end up cracking?
#57
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
That's like 90% of the engines on this site lol. These aren't brand new Mazdas that explode if you don't run 0w20, they like Xw40 becase they're so loose.
#58
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From: Boston
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Litre
For conventional Dino oil it's 100% correct.
#59
So to recap.... Regardless if my motor is made of some cast iron, some forged steel, some cast aluminum, and a variety of other metals... they are commonly going to only change .000006 per degree of temp change... some off them are made in a circle so X2 on dia...and now we are going to "stick a torch" on top of the pistons to warm them up quickly, yet our overall block (which houses these pistons) will not warm up nearly as fast. There is nothing on here but opinions, and mine is get some semblance of operating temp before operating.
Mahle recommends a difference of .002 clearance between their aluminum piston and their monotherm piston (something to do with expansion on different metals)
I ramble...
It doesn't get real cold down here in Arkansas, but If anybody gets on a piece of equipment without checking the fluid levels, or starts to operate it without some warm up time on any of our jobsites, we don't consider them operators. That's just normal preventive maintenance, but what do I know. That's kinda like cool down time on a turbo diesel, we do that too.
I know this is all opinions, but I like to think mine are always right LOL
Mahle recommends a difference of .002 clearance between their aluminum piston and their monotherm piston (something to do with expansion on different metals)
I ramble...
It doesn't get real cold down here in Arkansas, but If anybody gets on a piece of equipment without checking the fluid levels, or starts to operate it without some warm up time on any of our jobsites, we don't consider them operators. That's just normal preventive maintenance, but what do I know. That's kinda like cool down time on a turbo diesel, we do that too.
I know this is all opinions, but I like to think mine are always right LOL
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