USA made parts, where in the world can I find em?>
10-27-2013, 03:03 PM
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at least they still make some craftsman, snap on, and mac tools here in the USA. ya gotta vehicle built in the USA but to fix it ya gotta put foreign parts on it..its a shame
10-27-2013, 07:03 PM
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The thing with good American parts like Spicer, is that you KNOW the quality the second you open the box. Compare a $30 Spicer U-joint to a $7 auto zone, the cheap one feels like its gone grenade in a couple months and take out the ball joints and shafts or driveline with it....Hell even the boxes spicer packaged parts in are made in the USA lol.
My SYE kit is also USA, by JB Conversions. And compared to the cheap SYEs that are made overseas there is a huge difference in the casting and machining quality...cheap? No, but it will assemble perfect and take a beating.
Another thing USA made is wheel bearings, you would have to order the Timken bearings, which come at a cost, but changing chinese out bearings all the time gets old.
10-28-2013, 01:55 PM
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On that note, Spicer U-joints are made in the USA. And you sure as hell can tell the difference when you open the box...now $30 per 5-760x joint ain't the cheapest, but my factory ones went 212k miles, and the 153x driveshaft joints are still going strong.
The thing with good American parts like Spicer, is that you KNOW the quality the second you open the box. Compare a $30 Spicer U-joint to a $7 auto zone, the cheap one feels like its gone grenade in a couple months and take out the ball joints and shafts or driveline with it....Hell even the boxes spicer packaged parts in are made in the USA lol.
My SYE kit is also USA, by JB Conversions. And compared to the cheap SYEs that are made overseas there is a huge difference in the casting and machining quality...cheap? No, but it will assemble perfect and take a beating.
Another thing USA made is wheel bearings, you would have to order the Timken bearings, which come at a cost, but changing chinese out bearings all the time gets old.
The thing with good American parts like Spicer, is that you KNOW the quality the second you open the box. Compare a $30 Spicer U-joint to a $7 auto zone, the cheap one feels like its gone grenade in a couple months and take out the ball joints and shafts or driveline with it....Hell even the boxes spicer packaged parts in are made in the USA lol.
My SYE kit is also USA, by JB Conversions. And compared to the cheap SYEs that are made overseas there is a huge difference in the casting and machining quality...cheap? No, but it will assemble perfect and take a beating.
Another thing USA made is wheel bearings, you would have to order the Timken bearings, which come at a cost, but changing chinese out bearings all the time gets old.
10-28-2013, 02:14 PM
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The last company I worked for was a bearing company. Timken bearings are not all from India. They bought company's from all over the world. China, USA, turkey, Germany, Mexico, Brazil....... Their quality has dropped also. I can also tell you warn uses axis bearings which were my former employers house brand. That were made in china. Surprisingly they outperformed SKF and Timken bearings and cost less
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10-28-2013, 06:59 PM
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I work at a parts store so I see all sorts of interesting things. I noticed the other day Akebono brake pads that a customer requested, they are Japanese, but they are made here in America
10-29-2013, 10:33 AM
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I think this downfall is a combination of a few things.
- In the early-mid twentieth century the USA started using it's status as a world economic superpower to control other countries without getting the military side involved (hard to believe that last bit lol). Post WWII Japan was largely America's *****. USA allowed them to get back on their feet with a new trade relationship and controlled ther behavior through treaties and contracts. In the mean time China had a few revolutions and the same thing is happening. Nowaday, though, China's exports and internal economy are so huge that USA could just blockade the Pacific and it wouldn't be the end of the world, qute unlike when Japan was recovering from Fat Man. This is why China as an investor in US Debt is so important. (Last I recall China owns something like 30% of US Debt.) Now China has a lot more to lose than a trade relationship should **** go south. It ensures a steady supply and it prevents war. It's all about control.
- "the American Dream" without working that high-paying job has been mentioned already. Everybody wants nice things sure, but that's not sustainable. People working low-paying blue collar jobs want to be like that white collar guy with all of really nice things. So they buy cheap knockoffs at Walmart. Suddenly all of the low-paying blue collar jobs aren't here anymore because nobody buys that more expensive product. Coincidence?
- Entitled attitude to get the American Dream by turning a low-paying job into a high-paying job. Aside from buying cheap ****, employees have put their own employers out of business. Unions were originally for fairness, basic labor rights, and health and safety standards when no such legal framework existed. The modern incarnation however more resembles the mafia, extorting more and more money from companies for less and less output, totally out of line with inflation. Why should you get $30/hr for turning a bolt? The world understands that teenagers flip burgers, so the fast food industry does not have this issue. Organized crime like UAW doesn't care. Suddenly factories close because nobody is buying the same old crap at a ridiculously inflated price. You actually support your local economy a lot more by buying ultra cheap food at McDonalds compared to buying food at the consolidated supermarket and cooking it at home.
Of course these points are aside from political/business corruption and free trade agreements, a complete lack of environmental rules in developing industrial nations (EPA Super Fund doesn't have **** on China), and the broken economic system that has wealth concentrated in the hands of a few private individuals and completely removed from the economy, driving up inflation and expanding the wealth gap.
TL;DR my supermarket lettuce comes from California and my garlic from China. I shop local as much as I possibly can. It's in my own best interest.
- In the early-mid twentieth century the USA started using it's status as a world economic superpower to control other countries without getting the military side involved (hard to believe that last bit lol). Post WWII Japan was largely America's *****. USA allowed them to get back on their feet with a new trade relationship and controlled ther behavior through treaties and contracts. In the mean time China had a few revolutions and the same thing is happening. Nowaday, though, China's exports and internal economy are so huge that USA could just blockade the Pacific and it wouldn't be the end of the world, qute unlike when Japan was recovering from Fat Man. This is why China as an investor in US Debt is so important. (Last I recall China owns something like 30% of US Debt.) Now China has a lot more to lose than a trade relationship should **** go south. It ensures a steady supply and it prevents war. It's all about control.
- "the American Dream" without working that high-paying job has been mentioned already. Everybody wants nice things sure, but that's not sustainable. People working low-paying blue collar jobs want to be like that white collar guy with all of really nice things. So they buy cheap knockoffs at Walmart. Suddenly all of the low-paying blue collar jobs aren't here anymore because nobody buys that more expensive product. Coincidence?
- Entitled attitude to get the American Dream by turning a low-paying job into a high-paying job. Aside from buying cheap ****, employees have put their own employers out of business. Unions were originally for fairness, basic labor rights, and health and safety standards when no such legal framework existed. The modern incarnation however more resembles the mafia, extorting more and more money from companies for less and less output, totally out of line with inflation. Why should you get $30/hr for turning a bolt? The world understands that teenagers flip burgers, so the fast food industry does not have this issue. Organized crime like UAW doesn't care. Suddenly factories close because nobody is buying the same old crap at a ridiculously inflated price. You actually support your local economy a lot more by buying ultra cheap food at McDonalds compared to buying food at the consolidated supermarket and cooking it at home.
Of course these points are aside from political/business corruption and free trade agreements, a complete lack of environmental rules in developing industrial nations (EPA Super Fund doesn't have **** on China), and the broken economic system that has wealth concentrated in the hands of a few private individuals and completely removed from the economy, driving up inflation and expanding the wealth gap.
TL;DR my supermarket lettuce comes from California and my garlic from China. I shop local as much as I possibly can. It's in my own best interest.
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