Originally Posted by SoCalxJ4.0

It's not hating it's what it is. I don't care what every owner says. Everyone is partial to what they drive. Probably why they bought it. It's all machismo BS. 2 straight axels. The xj uses the same designed drive system since Willis. They are not hi tech, they just work well. A arms, ifs, all that stuff, not what a jeep is. You can love your Libby, and it could be a great vehicle for ya, stock to stock, the wheeling we do on the west coast, you will not be able to keep up. Seen it many times when we throw events at Ocotillo Wells and truckhaven, (google them) city kids come out with their stock Libby's, and commanders, and fj's..... Thinking they can play too because the emblem on the back says 4x4

Originally Posted by abc

I looked and couldn't find a single similarity from a xj to a Willis they were definitely not station wagons... What kind of suspensions do top of the line off-road race trucks run? And about the "city kids" that is literally the stupidest argument possible... You can put a driver with no experience and no knowledge about offroading behind the wheel of a rock buggy and have them not be able to keep up.

Originally Posted by stock95sport(for now)

pretty sure it was the coil front, leaf rear, solid/solid axles, low range t.case etc he was referring to

Originally Posted by stock95sport(for now)

pretty sure it was the coil front, leaf rear, solid/solid axles, low range t.case etc he was referring to

Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

Coil front? Jeep loved 4-leaf designs. XJ was the bastard child when it debuted because it used the new Quadra Link suspension that was later used on TJs due to its success. Technology improves, and things change. When they make IFS stronger, all these arguments we have against it will sound archaic.

Originally Posted by abc

Defenitly not a coil front

Originally Posted by abc

Defenitly not a coil front

Originally Posted by abc

There is a reason I specified a rough country 4.5 lift, thats the one I have seen on a ramp and did better in a stock Libby, a nice lift kit would out flex the Libby all day long but rough countrys 4.5 kit makes the little liberty look great

Originally Posted by SoCalxJ4.0

Offroad race trucks around here (baja) usually use 4 link rear, and radius arm or long arm fronts. But like you said, race trucks. Haulin rear through the desert 2 wheel drive, not going slow up mts.

I apologize for getting you all bent out of shape talkin bad about a liberty. When I'm wash running, I'd much rather be in my F150, actually 4 wheeling tho, I leave that to a solid axle.

Originally Posted by bheath

The parts are RC. 4.5" springs in front, RC shocks, RC extended brake lines, Etc. i just bought the stuff at different times. And yes it was on a homemade ramp back when it had 3.5" lift and 31's. There people go again assuming stuff. Listen man, we are never gonna agree on this.

On topic, i put my rear side cargo glass back in today after removing it yesterday to get in the jeep when my keychain broke and the keys fell off in the jeep without me knowing when i locked the doors. Glad the XJ is made like it is. Easily removable windows and such.

Originally Posted by DieselD

Damn that's an unfortunate happenstance bheath.

Originally Posted by abc

The 4.5 kit did not come with swaybar discos, try to flex it out with your swaybar connected and I guarantee you the Libby will out flex it bone stock

Originally Posted by abc

The 4.5 kit did not come with swaybar discos, try to flex it out with your swaybar connected and I guarantee you the Libby will out flex it bone stock