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Old 03-01-2013, 12:55 PM
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If you really have a cooling problem in the heat use Water Wetter. It will drop your running temp by 10-15*. I ran it in my MK5 before I sold it, sucked in the winter time cuz the car would never get warm but it rocks in the summer.
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Originally Posted by Swirlchaser
If you really have a cooling problem in the heat use Water Wetter. It will drop your running temp by 10-15*. I ran it in my MK5 before I sold it, sucked in the winter time cuz the car would never get warm but it rocks in the summer.
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Originally Posted by DESERTXJ206

Im not doubting their design. Im just saying IMO the fans kicking on that low means youd always have a fan on even when cruising down the road in the winter at operating tempature. With a fan always on like that your robbin you alternator of power. Especially if you ever need to winch out or have lights it wouls juat not be enough alt output to handle that well. But it deffinatly looks like a sweet fan set up!
I'm not worried about the alternator I've already swapped it out with the higher amperage alternator and I'm planning on putting a switch to all 3 fans so that way when I get in the deep bottom hole or some water I could shut them off
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Originally Posted by brdavis9
...just added this to my Amazon shopping list. Even with the caveats mentioned by reviewers, this seems like it might come in useful in certain conditions. Thanks for the heads-up!
I started using it because it's not corrosive and my MK5 had a lot of aluminum in it. A lot of the turbo guys run it with straight distilled water (no additional coolant). I later added it in my 96 XJ because I had a gallon premixed and needed coolant. It really made a difference.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

But it robs power, is heavier, and the clutch wears out. It's a toss up either way.
I like your thinking clown every bit of hp counts even if its just a few pony's
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Spraying shock mount hardware with PB and tinkering with torque trying to get a close calculation of mpg

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Pretty darn accurate. And so is the instant mpg.
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
Hence why ill stay with a mechanical fan. Work in water and my alternator gets to rest a lil
Your mechanical fan isn't going to turn very well once it's sunken to the hub lol. What would happen is really work the clutch and put a LOT of drag on the motor if you're in that deep. Any decent electrical fan should have some level of water proofing. In less water, the clutch will stay engaged and the blades get water everywhere. The big advantage of an all-electrical setup and water fording is that you can turn em off and reduce the amount getting sprayed all over your TPS.

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Plus (at least this is what I think) it's loud as hell
I've considered a ZJ clutch just for that... and I have no cooling issues.
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Originally Posted by Bretts2000XJ
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Pretty darn accurate. And so is the instant mpg.
Uh, what was that photo of...?
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Salad, the ZJ clutch is supposedly louder, but I didn't notice a difference in noise. I noticed a huge difference in cooling ability compared to my tired old MJ clutch.
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Awh I like it when I have the AC on in the summer. Sounds awesome on a 5-speed lol
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Originally Posted by brdavis9
Uh, what was that photo of...?
A screen shot from torque . Current readings from sensors and the ecu
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Originally Posted by salad

Your mechanical fan isn't going to turn very well once it's sunken to the hub lol. What would happen is really work the clutch and put a LOT of drag on the motor if you're in that deep. Any decent electrical fan should have some level of water proofing. In less water, the clutch will stay engaged and the blades get water everywhere. The big advantage of an all-electrical setup and water fording is that you can turn em off and reduce the amount getting sprayed all over your TPS.

I've considered a ZJ clutch just for that... and I have no cooling issues.
You may be right. If I ever have cooling issues I'd probably research it more through and think about it. One thing for sure alot of cars be today have 1 electric fan
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch

You may be right. If I ever have cooling issues I'd probably research it more through and think about it. One thing for sure alot of cars be today have 1 electric fan
I hate to tell you man but mechanical fans are becoming obsolete in new vehicles they are thing of the past just take a look at all front wheel drive cars they don't have any mechanical fans same thing with foreign cars a lot of them don't have any mechanical fans I know my BMW don't and it an 03
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Originally Posted by jtm01xj
I hate to tell you man but mechanical fans are becoming obsolete in new vehicles they are thing of the past just take a look at all front wheel drive cars they don't have any mechanical fans same thing with foreign cars a lot of them don't have any mechanical fans I know my BMW don't and it an 03
I agree regarding the electric fan, but be careful comparing modern foreign cars to a Jeep. You can't do most of the crap to them as our ol beasts. The AMC inline-six basically goes back fifty years with only slight modifications... we have flat tappet cams buried down at the bottom of the block still. Try bouncing off of rocks across the desert with 500 pounds of armor, a trailer, 15W40 conventional, and a FRAM on a 2013 Mazda 3 and tell me how that works out for you lol.
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Originally Posted by jtm01xj

I hate to tell you man but mechanical fans are becoming obsolete in new vehicles they are thing of the past just take a look at all front wheel drive cars they don't have any mechanical fans same thing with foreign cars a lot of them don't have any mechanical fans I know my BMW don't and it an 03
Pretty much what I just said. Everything is becoming electronic.


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