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Old 01-14-2016 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RacerX
What is that square bar down there? home made or some factory? stabilizer bar bolted to it (or will it bolt to it)?
looks like some kind of gear box brace.
Old 01-14-2016 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Shops can't/won't because of liability. The NSS prevents an auto from starting in gear, but remote start on a manual could cause it to start moving without any occupants
so it could be done, just have to know its in neutral before starting. I'm sure if you really wanted to make some safety device you could.
Old 01-14-2016 | 09:08 AM
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Picked up a set of JKS BPEs to stop the thunking going on whenever I turn left or idle at a red light
Old 01-14-2016 | 09:14 AM
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Got the upper control arm bolts out, that was a load of fun!
Old 01-14-2016 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RacerX
What is that square bar down there? home made or some factory? stabilizer bar bolted to it (or will it bolt to it)?
It's from Kevin's Offroad, replaces the radiator support, reinforces the frame, gives you a bit more clearance and gives you tow points tied to both frame rails instead of only one.
Old 01-14-2016 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
looks like some kind of gear box brace.
I also put in KOR's steering box stabilizer*.

Edit: *but that's a separate piece

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Old 01-14-2016 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
so it could be done, just have to know its in neutral before starting. I'm sure if you really wanted to make some safety device you could.
The only safety device on manual XJs is a clutch interlock switch - it does about half of the NSS's job. You'd have to build a new transmission that has switches to detect if a gear is engaged. (other than reverse)
Old 01-14-2016 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
The only safety device on manual XJs is a clutch interlock switch - it does about half of the NSS's job. You'd have to build a new transmission that has switches to detect if a gear is engaged. (other than reverse)
Mine doesn't even have that... I looked all over for it when I had a sudden no-start issue thinking that the clutch pedal position switch had failed. Found no evidence of it ever being there and just removed by a previous owner, either.
Old 01-14-2016 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
The only safety device on manual XJs is a clutch interlock switch - it does about half of the NSS's job. You'd have to build a new transmission that has switches to detect if a gear is engaged. (other than reverse)
couldn't you theoretically put in switches in that the shifter would press in each gear position that would be open when pressed so if the selector was in any gear it would break connection and not start?
Old 01-14-2016 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
couldn't you theoretically put in switches in that the shifter would press in each gear position that would be open when pressed so if the selector was in any gear it would break connection and not start?
It'd be a lot of fiddly fabrication, but theoretically, yes. I'm thinking a shift gate made of delrin (quiet, easy to shape) with limit switches arranged where any position forward or backward of neutral disconnects the remote start circuit regardless of what gear the transmission is in... just needs a slot for the shift lever to allow side to side motion since it only needs to track the forward/backward position to activate the switches... brb, drawing.
Old 01-14-2016 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash_Course
Mine doesn't even have that... I looked all over for it when I had a sudden no-start issue thinking that the clutch pedal position switch had failed. Found no evidence of it ever being there and just removed by a previous owner, either.
So you've never had to depress the clutch to start?

Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
couldn't you theoretically put in switches in that the shifter would press in each gear position that would be open when pressed so if the selector was in any gear it would break connection and not start?
Yes, that is the theory behind all the fab work you'd have to perform to the assembly in the transmission.
Old 01-14-2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
So you've never had to depress the clutch to start?
Nope... I did so out of pure habit until one day I noticed it would crank regardless... Up until the time I went looking for the switch I'd just assumed someone had bypassed it, but I couldn't even find wiring or a connector for it. Between removing the security system that was on it and chasing turn signal issues, I've more or less been through all the under dash wiring.
Old 01-14-2016 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
The only safety device on manual XJs is a clutch interlock switch - it does about half of the NSS's job. You'd have to build a new transmission that has switches to detect if a gear is engaged. (other than reverse)
Originally Posted by Crash_Course
Mine doesn't even have that... I looked all over for it when I had a sudden no-start issue thinking that the clutch pedal position switch had failed. Found no evidence of it ever being there and just removed by a previous owner, either.
Originally Posted by salad
So you've never had to depress the clutch to start?
Mine doesn't have the clutch interlock switch either. Pretty sure no XJ before 1997 had one.
Old 01-14-2016 | 04:36 PM
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Brought it back home..

Old 01-14-2016 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash_Course
Nope... I did so out of pure habit until one day I noticed it would crank regardless... Up until the time I went looking for the switch I'd just assumed someone had bypassed it, but I couldn't even find wiring or a connector for it. Between removing the security system that was on it and chasing turn signal issues, I've more or less been through all the under dash wiring.
Originally Posted by dukie564
Mine doesn't have the clutch interlock switch either. Pretty sure no XJ before 1997 had one.
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