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Old 01-18-2018, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Basslicks
lol... c'mon Tim, you went to college.... you know Wikipedia isn't considered an "acceptable source"

And yeah, I know The Rockford Files didn't invent it. But it's one of those grey areas. Talk to 10 different hot rodders and they'll all say something different... kinda like asking 10 different guitar players how to play "Stairway to Heaven".
nope... not a credible source... because of how it's authored and no checks/balances for specifically how accurate the info on there is on any given page at the time you look at it.

sorry... I'm a university professor as well as an IT admin. You'd be surprised how often people (students) try to use it.
Old 01-18-2018, 07:26 PM
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Wikipedia is generally reliable in most instances, from a statistical standpoint. I wouldn't argue that it should count as a citable source for research, but it has a strong track record for general information. Although anyone can edit it, there are many thousands of people reviewing the content and edits for accuracy at any given time. Furthermore, many controversial pages can't be edited unless you login.

That said, it's irrelevant in this context. The information can easily be corroborated elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Wrong again! I'm an autodidact

I don't care if people call it a Rockford turn, but saying it isn't a J-turn would be incorrect
Then what would you call the turn on the left in the image I uploaded? It's not simply a u-turn or "turning around" as you say... when you're making that turn from 45 mph, hit the e-brake to slide the rear around, and then get back on the gas while still in the turn to maintain momentum, it's definitely more than just a simple "turn."

Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Wikipedia is generally reliable in most instances, from a statistical standpoint. I wouldn't argue that it should count as a citable source for research, but it has a strong track record for general information. Although anyone can edit it, there are many thousands of people reviewing the content and edits for accuracy at any given time. Furthermore, many controversial pages can't be edited unless you login.

That said, it's irrelevant in this context. The information can easily be corroborated elsewhere.
No, this is absolutely correct. While I enjoy trying to give Tim a hard time, for the purposes of this (and every other informal forum outlet), Wikipedia is just as good of a source as any. We're all just automotive enthusiasts in casual debate on semantics, no need to cite authoritative sources.
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I'd call it a 180 or a 180 drift. I'm sure there are other names for it, but calling it a J-turn is contrary to everything I've ever heard, including a, uhh... high level driving course that I went through for uhh... a place I used to work.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
I'd call it a 180 or a 180 drift. I'm sure there are other names for it, but calling it a J-turn is contrary to everything I've ever heard, including a, uhh... high level driving course that I went through for uhh... a place I used to work.
They told me to leave that stuff for the guys in hollywood. The chance you will ever need it in tactical situations is pretty slim. lol
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Mastering it wasn't a focus, but everyone called it a J-turn lol
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
I'd call it a 180 or a 180 drift. I'm sure there are other names for it, but calling it a J-turn is contrary to everything I've ever heard, including a, uhh... high level driving course that I went through for uhh... a place I used to work.
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I never worried about what those two driving techniques are called, I just considered it FUN.

Back on topic, I went shopping for an LED light bar today, but didn't buy one because the cheap ones are crappy (big surprise there) and the good ones cost as much as a set of tires. So here I am with my stock headlights trail riding in the mountains today.
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Originally Posted by StealthyMcStealth
I never worried about what those two driving techniques are called, I just considered it FUN.

Back on topic, I went shopping for an LED light bar today, but didn't buy one because the cheap ones are crappy (big surprise there) and the good ones cost as much as a set of tires. So here I am with my stock headlights trail riding in the mountains today.
all you need is a 12 or 20 inch bar...50s are unnecessary and don't look good imo...rough country is not normally anything i recommend, but I got their 20 inch bar as a gift last Christmas and it's pretty darn good imo. The guy who gave it to me has their 12 inch on their roller failed mount and it puts out some good light as well.
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
all you need is a 12 or 20 inch bar...50s are unnecessary and don't look good imo...rough country is not normally anything i recommend, but I got their 20 inch bar as a gift last Christmas and it's pretty darn good imo. The guy who gave it to me has their 12 inch on their roller failed mount and it puts out some good light as well.
Thanks for the info!
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Additional note:
Most of the cheap LED bars will fog up from condensation in the housing. If you buy a cheap one, remove the lens and then reassemble it with a little RTV all the way around the edges
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Made some parts for the cross member me and a buddy is building
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
I'd call it a 180 or a 180 drift. I'm sure there are other names for it, but calling it a J-turn is contrary to everything I've ever heard, including a, uhh... high level driving course that I went through for uhh... a place I used to work.
Look out guys. I think the po-po is watching.
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Originally Posted by Tbone289
Look out guys. I think the po-po is watching.
Most definitely not the popo
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