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Old 03-27-2018, 03:54 PM
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I'm talking about the total re-engineering of a car from the bottom up including engine and trans just to make sure that no part numbers from the previous year will apply any longer. All at much greater costs to themselves and the consumer when it is actually unnecessary.

Well, there's that too... ;-) But, you can blame the EPA for a lot of that, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
Make sure that no part numbers from the previous year will apply any longer.
Isn't that Volvo's entire business strategy? :P
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Will I be OK with the one I have coming?
You would definitely have more resolution with the smaller range on the dial... It might be hard to test the low side (hot idle) with the first one.
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Old 03-27-2018, 04:02 PM
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Isn't that Volvo's entire business strategy? :P
I haven't worked on many Volvos over the years so I have to be honest and say that I'm not sure about Volvo doing this or not, but I know all the rest are.
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Originally Posted by Tbone289
You would definitely have more resolution with the smaller range on the dial... It might be hard to test the low side (hot idle) with the first one.
Yea that was what I was kinda thinking. There are 4 lines on the Gearwrench one. Figure 0, 8.33, 16.66, and 25 which is where the hot idle will fall. If I recall 13 at a very hot idle is Ok? I read about 22 but never really believed what the gauge in the instrument cluster says.
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Yes, 13 is minimum spec. I'll bet there are a lot of high-mileage 4.0's out there that run just fine with less, though.
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Yes, 13 is minimum spec. I'll bet there are a lot of high-mileage 4.0's out there that run just fine with less, though.
I am going to have to overthink this more but I think for what I am trying to do I can get by with it. I just need the gauge to read exactly between 8.33 and 16.66 or greater. LOL.
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Originally Posted by Tbone289
Well, there's that too... ;-) But, you can blame the EPA for a lot of that, IMO.
That's what I keep hearing... But I have been a certified smog tech since this mess all started. And if you can take a simple almost worn out 4.0 without even an EGR valve system and make it pass in Ca. I think they are making a mountain out of a mole hill with using this justification to double the cost of a car.

But I digress, we have beat that one up already in the past. I just wanted to point out the new car business model is very similar to the electronics scam model.
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Yes, it is. DOH! I meant to say EPCA, not EPA (or rather, CAFE).

You're not usually one to digress when it comes to beating up on those types of topics BO... What gives? :-)
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Originally Posted by Tbone289
Yes, it is. DOH! I meant to say EPCA, not EPA (or rather, CAFE).

You're not usually one to digress when it comes to beating up on those types of topics BG... What gives? :-)
Last time I got into that debate Clown and I were at it for four days or more I think. I'm too sick right now to make that same topic that serious at the moment. lol
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That clown got a name!
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That clown got a name!
He has never shared it with me my friend, and if it has been shared on here I somehow missed it. But I know one thing... He made me work my *** off to back my points in that lengthy debate. lol

Full credit and respect for his skills are just.
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Doctor Clown, M.D.
You eat too much painkillers
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Doctor Clown, M.D.
Hey! thanks for sharing that Doc. lol
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