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Old 02-03-2020 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
I have watched a couple videos about doing that. My problem is I think that it would be to big to put anywhere.
But I do like the idea of having the relays and fuses all in the same spot.
While I don't think I will end up with that I have not ruled it out totally.
I want to use factory fog light switches so the on-off-on switch way won't help me.

This is the relay that I used to set up the fog lights I am running.
Which I want to use for all the lighting.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/LIT1...wordInput=192d

With this one when you flip the switch power is from the 87 and 87a pin out to the fog lights.
One is hooked to 87 and the other to 87a.
Ground is 86, switch is 85, and power to the relay is 30.
So 86 and 85 don't change.
So you are saying now run 30 to the lights? Which means I have to split that wire to each light?
Then 87 goes to the battery?
And I splice 87a into one of the reverse lights?
And that will make them go on when in reverse and let me operate the lights with the switch independently?
See the nice thing is I had so little to add that I fit it in the stock fuse box, and another guy on here 99xjunlimited I think it is (sorry if I got that wrong) swapped out the 2 big relays in his box for 4 small relays so you can add quite a bit to your factory box before you'd need to expand to another box. What did you do to your Cherokee today?-photo491.jpg this is his diagram that I used to do my fan wiring, and it's the same concept except the efan relay would be your reverse lights
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Old 02-03-2020 | 09:04 AM
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Yeah you lost me on that one.
Takes 2 relays to pull this off?

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Old 02-03-2020 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
Yeah you lost me on that one.
Takes 2 relays to pull this off?
His e fan relay is the factory relay. He just added a second relay to add a switch to the fan, so you wouldn't need two relays, the e fan relay would just be replaced by a 12v power from the reverse light.
Old 02-03-2020 | 09:33 AM
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Yeah not getting it.
Maybe cause I think I am using a 5 pin relay?

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Old 02-03-2020 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
See the nice thing is I had so little to add that I fit it in the stock fuse box, and another guy on here 99xjunlimited I think it is (sorry if I got that wrong) swapped out the 2 big relays in his box for 4 small relays so you can add quite a bit to your factory box before you'd need to expand to another box. this is his diagram that I used to do my fan wiring, and it's the same concept except the efan relay would be your reverse lights
I am having trouble matching the small relays to any part numbers online. Back in the day NAPA could match it (the parts manuals from EVERYBODY have the wrong relay), but not having any luck with other parts stores either.
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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
I am having trouble matching the small relays to any part numbers online. Back in the day NAPA could match it (the parts manuals from EVERYBODY have the wrong relay), but not having any luck with other parts stores either.
I just took a complete fuse box at the junkyard and have acquired some extras that I don't actually really know where they came from. I've never looked for them in the parts store. Ford relays appear to be the same, but I haven't put any of them in my Jeep to actually confirm, but the pin out reads the same
Old 02-03-2020 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
I am having trouble matching the small relays to any part numbers online. Back in the day NAPA could match it (the parts manuals from EVERYBODY have the wrong relay), but not having any luck with other parts stores either.
What is the part number on the factory relay you are trying to find?
Old 02-03-2020 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
Yeah not getting it.
Maybe cause I think I am using a 5 pin relay?
What did you do to your Cherokee today?-photo250.jpg
This is how you would wire it. 87a is normally closed, so when the switch is not depressed the lights will come on when you put it in reverse, 87 is normally open, so when the switch is depressed the lights will come on by the switch.
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
Attachment 404683
This is how you would wire it. 87a is normally closed, so when the switch is not depressed the lights will come on when you put it in reverse, 87 is normally open, so when the switch is depressed the lights will come on by the switch.
Now this makes more sense. Thank you for that.
But thinking I need a different relay then the 192D at Napa that I used for my fog lights.
Cause both 87's are hot when you throw the switch in the passenger compartment.
One 87 goes to one fog light and the 87a goes to the other fog light.
Tough to see the schematic on this shot but it is the only one I could find.

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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
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This is how you would wire it. 87a is normally closed, so when the switch is not depressed the lights will come on when you put it in reverse, 87 is normally open, so when the switch is depressed the lights will come on by the switch.
I am looking for the small rectangular ones, not the big honking square ABS ones. Forgot where I got these, not NAPA or the dealer.


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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
I am looking for the small rectangular ones, not the big honking square ABS ones. Forgot where I got these, not NAPA or the dealer.
At Napa I am thinking this:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MPEAR606SB

or this:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHA...ordInput=ar606

Same relay in two different lines. MPE being the cheaper line and ECH the more expensive.
Amazon looks like this one:

Amazon Amazon
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Old 02-03-2020 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
At Napa I am thinking this:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MPEAR606SB

or this:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHA...ordInput=ar606

Same relay in two different lines. MPE being the cheaper line and ECH the more expensive.
Amazon looks like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Relay-4671168.../dp/B00X95SM9E
Ah, thank you. Looks like Tycho relays are the same price they were 15 years ago.
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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
Ah, thank you. Looks like Tycho relays are the same price they were 15 years ago.
Don't trust me on any of this:
But I do think those are the ones.
Poking around more I found these:

http://www.primelec.com/tyco-12-volt...9#.Xjg8wWhKgms

I put 2 in my cart and had the site calculate shipping. To me $5 less then Amazon.
Again assuming I am right and these are the ones you want.
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Old 02-03-2020 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 318SixPack
I am looking for the small rectangular ones, not the big honking square ABS ones. Forgot where I got these, not NAPA or the dealer.

I was replying to Ralph with his wiring questions, but for those relays I've got a lot of junkyard ones, but I typed in the 72472m in on google and amazon has it listed as a Chrysler/dodge relay 2 pack for $23. It's the same pin out that ford relays uses, so they shouldn't be too hard to find. I've just never tried to find them new in stores or online.
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Old 02-03-2020 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Battle
Which OME leaf packs are those and did you use all the leafs, or did you remove one?
On the red '91 Cherokee I am using Old Man Emmu 2.5" components as part of the Ultimate Hybrid kit from DPG Offroad. Yes, I have removed 1 leaf to get the lift closer to 2" lift. I will post additional details of what I have done. I should start a thread on what I am doing on this Jeep.

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